The Human Generator: Tony Rodrigues on Quartz, Water, and Human Energy

I welcome back researcher and experiencer Tony Rodrigues to explore the ancient and modern technologies that reveal what humans truly are: electromagnetic, intentional, luminous beings capable of shaping matter through the coherence of our inner field.

Tony shares the physics behind obelisks, water arrays, quartz harmonics, and biophotons — and shows how these structures were used to purify water, imprint emotion, influence consciousness, and amplify intention. 

He also demonstrates how the human heart and mind generate electric pulses that can be measured, replicated, and taught. 

This conversation is a window in on why we humans have been so exploited and extracted by the parasitic consciousness that has long dominated this planet -- for our energy, our creativity, our direct Source connection... in short, our Light. It serves as a remembrance:

• We are not consumers; we are generators.
• We are not powerless; we are conductive.
• We are not separate from the world we live in; we are shaping it with every pulse of awareness.

This is a luminous, mind-expanding dialogue for anyone reclaiming sovereignty in the age of awakening.

Tony Rodrigues is a Secret Space and Classified Programs experiencer, researcher and the author of three best-selling books sharing his personal account.  In addition, he researches Black Budget Technology and teaches remote viewing, remote influencing phenomena, and long-term memory therapy, hosted weekly on his Patreon.

Tony actively speaks and hosts conferences focused on truth exploration, helping others delve into deeper understandings of hidden realities and the power of the consciousness. 

https://www.tonyrodrigues.com/

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Transcript

Curiosity About Tech And Obelisks

Claire 0:02

So this is I'm excited. This is like a whole other side of you that you know, I've it's been tantalizing. I've heard like snatches here and there when you start to talk about tech and you start to talk about all these different projects you're working on. And I'm always like, go back. I want to know what do you mean about that? What do you mean? And like the obelisk, the object that is behind you, which we can see on the screen, is fascinating. And I've seen obelisks my whole life, but I didn't understand what they were. And it turns out this is the whole world. So I would love to know like, how did you get interested in this?

Marcel Vogel, Crystals, And Lab Evidence

Tony 0:38

You know, it was the people I hung out with. And so people that began to contact me to do shows like this with you were very interested. You're very interested. I've already learned a lot from you. You know, just us chatting off camera for five minutes. You know, you learned I would have never otherwise met you if I hadn't come forward with my testimony. Right. And so you're one of many of hundreds of people that I would have never met that are very interesting. And we and I've learned picked up things, you know, like you ran into my information in my books because you're somebody that has is of a mind that doesn't reject that information, right? So people that are curious about things because you have your own kind of awareness that the official account of everything isn't everything. And so people are still curious and they run into me. And through your own experience, you've come up with own evidence and your own technology, if you will. And so hanging out with people for the last 10 years since I've gone public has really stoked my curiosity. And then, coupled with my own efforts, I'm constantly researching what I remember and what I went through. I'm constantly, constantly doing it. I think it's a big deal. Any shred of proof proves the next thing and the next thing. And after so long, the technology part of it. But anyhow, hanging out with people, Dan Willis in particular, and uh when he he and I did a show and we talked on a Zoom call at length about um Vogel crystals.

Claire 2:14

Yes, I heard that interview.

Intention, Water Memory, And The Pulse

Tony 2:16

And I'm very and I love that the thing about Dan is that it's a very, you know, when you talk about crystals, all of a sudden it gets woo-ey and it's like you're, you know, it's just charging it in the moonlight kind of thing. And so it sounds very, you know, not scientific, but Dan worked with Marcel Vogel with some extremely um, extremely expensive and high-caliber scientific equipment in a laboratory. And Marcel Vogel invented the magnetic drive on the hard drive, the magnetic coating for the hard disk for IBM. Like that's what he developed. And so this is a heavyweight in the computer industry. Like we the literally the hard drive be was because of him, and he patented that, and then I I am I would imagine he made a fortune doing it, but he I'm sure he was compensated well. But after that, he was looking for the next best thing, and it was Christy Quartz, it led him to quartz, and then living and being in California, you don't talk about quartz for long, but somebody pulls out their healing stone. This one is blessed from this one is blessed, and it's it's um, you know, Atlantean quartz or whatever. So you bump into people, and Marcel Vogel. Um the story goes, and I could be wrong, totally butcher this, but the story goes that he was at a conference talking about the properties of quartz, and somebody came up and said, This can heal you, and he was sore. He had a he and the girl used it and he said, and he got healed and beyond a placebo, and he said, you know, he went back and wanted to learn the science of what the hell just happened to him. Anyhow, so meeting Dan, I had him explain the science to me and and what was going on with it, and then I started experimenting with it. So many conferences I've been to, so many places they have this technologies and they have all these claims, and a lot of them don't do anything for me, and some of them do. I had a guy in Australia hang a uh copper neck, just a density ring, you know. They sell these at all conferences, but he hung it right here, and he it was a necklace. He said, Go ahead and try. I still have it. I actually I bought it off of them then. This is years ago, and it was a necklace, and it hung, it's gotta be about right here, solar plexus. And he hung it there, and he said, Hold on now, put your hand put your hands, stand with your feet together and put your hands at your side and stick your hand out, like kind of like that. And he said, Just stand there and try to hold your balance and resist me. And he put his hand in my I had my hand on the shape, and he put his fist, he pushed me, and I'd fall over. And he pushed down, you know, he'd be right next to me and he'd push down. And I'm saying, What are you doing here? What I don't get it. And then he had me put on the necklace, and I was a copper ring right here, and then he pushed on me and he couldn't push me over. I was extremely strong, resistant to it. And I that's really was an eye-opening moment for me. And I thought, well, in the same way, like Marcel Vogel, like you know, it's gotta work, and you gotta show me, right? I don't just take everything like this. I've had people pull out these plastic devices, and I'm gonna clear your auric field, and everything's gonna all your good memories will come back, and I'll be like, nothing happened. So I appreciate it, but uh, I appreciate the effort, but I don't have I don't see a science there. So putting it all together, and then with my own experience from they used technology on me, they were experimenting with rat with psycho energetics in the in your kernel that I went through that I wrote about in my series colony and uh basically all three books, but they were experimenting with it, and I remember very very clearly some, and that might be why I remember, right? So um, but I remember very specific technologies. They it wasn't we you know, we weren't sitting around, like I always say, we're not we weren't sitting around with candles and a pentagram. It wasn't that, it was a technological process that we were going through to induce psychic phenomena and psycho, you know, out of body and remote viewing and perturbing things at the target, like it was advanced. And I always had remember remembered that. So I'm always going through how does it work?

Claire 6:32

Well, I you know, one of the impressions that I got uh reading your book was exactly that about the technologies, that they're they're extremely specific, they know exactly what they're doing, and it's not airy fairy at all. It's just you this is just what we do, this is the technique, this is the method.

Tony 6:50

Right. Yes. And so to reverse engineer that uh is proof, right? So if I can remember something that nobody else does, but it turns out that the proof that I've dug up on a lot of things has just other people have worked on in the past and it just fell to the wayside. You know, a lot of the when we talk about the consciousness aspects of it, they based a lot of things off the work of John Lilly, John C. Lilly, who was the um sensory deprivation tank that we see in the movie in Stranger Things. That was John Lilly's work early on, and then coupled with uh CO2 and oxygen deprivation that the Navy had accidentally figured out. So combat causes a lot of psychoenergetic events to happen for people, you know, the death experience near death and an actual death experience that the military is often exposed to gave them insight and data to pull from for this stuff. So consciousness is much different than what we think it is, or what we've been sold. And the military is aware of it. But so they started researching this stuff, and and so I've kind of followed in those footsteps. But the obelisks were purely because of Dan Willis and Marcel Vogel's research, because I looked at the early Vogel crystal and it was an obelisk. It was a four-sided, 60-degree terminated with a 52-degree, if I'm wrong, on the bottom. And he said it works, it takes it accepts, quartz is a great memory medium because it accepts piezoelectric charge and remembers it. Water does too. So we are water, and we are an electromagnetic your brain, your brain to your vagus nerve, to your heart is essentially an electromagnetic generator. So you your heart, your chemical, your biochemical process releases electricity into the cells, the heart a lot, the brain a little more or you know, less, but you're a bioelectric uh electric wrong. Generator. You are a generator. You're giving off uh elect electrons and electromagnetic generator. That's the word I was looking for. So he looked at that and he said, Well, quartz, if you're in proximity, quartz should be able to record the bioelectric shape of the thought. So when you have a thought in your brain, when you think Apple, it's not a picture of an apple, but the neurons that are that are associated with apple create a shape. The neurons that fire in your brain when I say um Formula One race car, right? So for you to think about that, the neurons inside your brain fired to call up the memory of that, and it's a shape. It's not a it's not a picture of a Formula One race car or the words, it's not a paragraph, it's a shape of neurons that are suddenly electrified.

Claire 9:51

So a connection between certain neurons that allows you to have recall of that thing.

Tony 9:57

Your brain is a 3D computer. Your brain's a 3D quantum computer. It's three-dimensional. It's so we talk about silicon chips are two-dimensional chips layered in stacks, but they're not really 3D architecture. There, for a while, all of the 3D architecture cooling systems, not the chip, the cooling system, were the all every patent available was taken by the United States military.

Claire 10:22

Claimed and put on the shelf?

Tony 10:24

Yeah, you could not develop a uh three-dimensional computer chip that operates the same way that a human brain does. You just couldn't do it. It was locked up. I think it still is, to be fair. Um, but you make that shape, and if you do it in a correct way, if your quartz is in the near near proximity of that bioelectric field, it'll remember the shape. Wow.

Claire 10:48

Okay. So similar to how water records things.

How Quartz Stores Thought Shapes

Tony 10:51

Absolutely, exactly how water records. Exactly right. That's exactly right. It will remember the shape, and it is it works in so the difference between water and quartz is that the shape will dissipate quicker in water.

Claire 11:05

Okay.

Tony 11:06

So I can do this. So there's there's and I wow, I want to get out, I want to get all of my stuff for this and and show you. Nobody asks me about this stuff. People always want to ask me about the subject matter of my books, but people don't ask me about what I do since then. And I really think it's in many ways just as important, if not more.

Claire 11:24

Yeah.

Tony 11:25

This is tea. Uh so it's water, and so I can hold a thought, an intention. Intent me, I'm big intention's everything. So I learned that from uh living in Hawaii. So if you intended for something good to happen and something bad actually happened, you actually didn't do anything wrong. And if you intended for something bad to happen and something good happened, you actually did something wrong. So your intention supersedes the event. Your intention supersedes event. Anyhow, so if I have an intention in my head that I want to get over my upset stomach, and I what I do is remember, tune in to a time in my life when my stomach was actually quite strong, and remember that emotionally, and then don't think about it in a in a in a paragraph, but in a condensed snort. So it seems the universe works in pulses that have all the data in one pulse, like a snort, like a okay. And then drink the water. And it will actually carry that throughout the body, that shape of electricity goes through the body, and even on a cellular level, you begin to you begin to carry that thought. It's an influence.

Claire 12:42

Okay, a pulse. Now, this is really important. This is like this is because I'm a coach, you know, mentor. I I I've for years, you know, I've been helping people set intention and you know, it imagine, use the imagination constructively instead of destructively, right? But I mean, this pulse, this snort moment really uh got into my I felt it like, wait a second, this is a detail that you kind of passed over, but it's really important. Yeah, it's like um something about the way the universe works. It's not because you have a paragraph in your mind that your intention is going to be powerful, right? And I'm always saying to people, you know, it's it can't just stay in your mind. It has to be embodied, it has to come down, you have to feel it, you know. And I guess the moment of feeling is that is that pulse, right? It's the moment of the the snort.

Tony 13:41

An emotional tether.

Claire 13:42

Uh-huh.

Tony 13:43

So to the so we can say, um, man, I don't have a good one off the top. Let's say I want we want world peace. Let's we're right now, currently at the filming of this, there's a war going on in you know the Ukraine. So we want to do it and set our intention of our meditation for to alleviate and for that war to be over as soon as possible. I want the war in Ukraine to be lighter, I want peace to prevail, and I want them to make progress as soon as possible. So I said that's a long paragraph.

Claire 14:16

Right.

Vogel Crystal Geometry And Effects

Tony 14:17

But that's my intention. That's and your body is recording that electrically in a in a smaller condensed version. And so then when I want to put it in a piece of quartz, I don't have one nearby, I could grab, or an obelisk for that matter, which is made out of primary you know, polycrystalline quartz structure, then that paragraph that I said about the Ukraine in one pulse, in one all that intention, all that emotion into one pulse, and put that into the quartz. So when you you first you have to clear it, you hold your hand on each end, you cause an electric pole on each end, and think of yourself as crystal clear and the quartz as crystal clear, nothing in it, and snort clarity so it's clear, so it's been cleared. Then you can put your intention. I want to, you know, I I remember when my knees were as strong as they could be when I was a when I was this fit as I was when I was athletic, you know, I was 16 and I won the championship. And so my knees were super strong, and I want to remember what that feels like. And I want my knees, everything uh that uh comes in contact with this to feel that and snorted into the quartz. And then literally, because of the shape of the quartz, the double terminus, it it has the same effect electrically as a laser diode has photophotonically. So uh a laser diode has a mirror and a mirror, and this is a hundred percent mirror, and this is a 60%, and light comes in from elsewhere, and begin the light that go finds a 90-degree orients itself into a perfect line and then eventually escapes through the weaker mirror and is a laser beam. Oh so your electrical impulse that you that shape of electro piezoelectricity, well, piezoelectricity that you put in that quartz in a Vogel crystal has the same thing. So it starts to go back and forth in the crystal, and on one end it's a different terminus and it escapes. And so I thought when I learned all that from Dan, I I looked at the obelisk. Here's I have a uh picture right here uh crystal. I'm going to screen share.

Claire 16:32

Yes.

Tony 16:34

There's the shape.

Claire 16:36

So this oh, there it is. Okay, yeah.

Tony 16:38

That's what that's what Marcel Vogel settled on for the shape. So clear quartz, and with a 60-something terminus and a 54 or 52 terminus on the bottom. We're talking about the angle of the the angle, yes, and because of the structure of the quartz molecule is why it's relevant. So all quartz breaks off at this angle. It's 52 or 54, but this angle is what quartz forms naturally. And so what's happening is the electricity just bounces back and forth in there, and out of this steeper end, it eventually creates a beam.

Claire 17:14

Oh, wow.

Tony 17:15

And so that's what you're doing. And when you say when you remember what it felt like to have your knees in great shape when you were a kid, and then you put it in the crystal and then point that at your sore knee today, the cellular memory is get catching that electrical charge of that memory and ri recreating it. You know what I mean? Re-familiarizing itself with the correct feeling of being healthy. And so you can there's other ways to do it, there's other methods when we talk about putting a signal into it. But then I started looking and I thought he had a four-sighted um he had a four-sighted one. Let me see here. And that doesn't make any sense when we have things like this in nature. And I looked at that and I thought, this is like his original design, but and then I looked and I thought, all of the obelisks in the world that are erected somewhere else, they all came out of Egypt. Nobody built their own obelisk at these big national places. And um and then I looked, and they're all made out of the same granite that the Egyptians went through great trouble to only use the red Oswan granite. And I looked at what's that composition, and lo and behold, it's up to, not always, but up to 60% quartz content content with a ferrous, uh, like an iron ferrous uh amount in there. So it's a magnetic, and then there's a slight radioactive isotope that is unique to the Oswan granite that's not in other granites. So it was very specific, the granite that they used for these for this shape. I thought, well, that kind of leads me on, but you see the building in the background with these this is Boboli Gardens in Florence, Italy, is where this almost is. And it's got a few things that I started to notice repeated. It has a hat and it has feet, and it has the same stuff in a base under here with a nearby water uh supply, and then a building shaped like this array. And I started to notice that, and then in other places, the same thing, the array. So in Karnak, where they all came from, uh in Luxor, Egypt, is where all the obelisks were when they were first made were parked. Um there's an array. There's that uh the hall of the and then I looked at the these are made out of sandstone, which also have a high quartz content. Okay, all these pillars. But lo and behold, the Vatican's got an obelisk with the same thing with a hat and feet, iron feet and a hat, and it's from Oswan Granite. And the Bobolee Gardens one has an array of quartz things around. It another array, and then wait a minute, the National Mall in Washington, DC, that giant obelisk that they they couldn't get the right stone to finish it when they got halfway up because of the Civil War. And so they delayed it like 50 years or some decades of construction until they could get the right stone that had the right chemical composition. There's documents about that.

Claire 20:22

Wow.

From Egypt To Vatican: Granite And Arrays

Tony 20:23

And they and I was like, what is what's going on here? Wait a minute. And then I started to look at the Karnak um site. And I said, Wow, it's it's about that long. And you know, there's other things about this site. It has an archway, and then it has it had two obelisk side by side, several of them, and they all the way through here, and then it had this array, which nobody really knows why what this hallway did with all the um with all the pillars in the middle. And I thought, man, and then the Bobolee Gardens. I'll tell you the truth, I dated a girl. So here's how this is what turned me on this one. I dated a girl who dated a guy in Italy, and he was in a secret society and told her about the water in Florence, that the water was well renowned for their wine quality. And then I thought Marcel Vogel also did a wine experiment where he turned junk wine into award-winning wine by running it nearby seven turns, seven right turns around a Vogel crystal. The uh and I know I just saved it here. That Chat GPT also recommends for making an inductive machine, a self-powering inductive with a capacitive hat with an inductive base that creates magnetic radioactive radioactive uh reactive fields. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. A lot of things are starting to add up here. It don't make sense. And then when I measured this, so this is where the water aerates to the edge of the construction. The obelisk is right here with an array, which is the it's called the PT Palace. Uh-huh. The array is much, much the same sandstone columns, just like in Karnat. It's 0.72 miles. I went, that's the same distance. And then I looked again. And we have the Eiffel Tower, the same distance of that array. Um and then the obelisk of Concord, which is from Luxor. It's called the Luxor Obelisk, 0.72 miles. The same thing. You can see these arrays, and these are water pools. I'm going, what's going on here? I don't know if I have these arranged where I can go through them all quickly. Um, but the town Astana, the capital of a Kazakhstan, is same in seven, the same distant increments, and they've dammed up the water here from a small river, and it's right here. This is a quartz, this is a quartz component, the monument, Kazakhali. But then these are other places, the tower, the Baetarek Tower, and then the fountain, a fountain. And I'm going, what's going on here? Why is this? Homdel, New Jersey is the same guy that was the architect, the same guy that designed this site, put that water tower on one end and a water pond on the other, and there are other components. It's the same layout. Um he designed the St. Louis uh the St. Louis Arch.

Claire 23:25

Arch. Okay. So the 0.72 miles that represents the total length of the array.

Tony 23:32

Yes. And well, here's what so here's the I'm gonna go do the St. Louis Arch. I have a couple of them. Not only is it from this Malcolm Park, but also to the civil courts building to the St. Louis River or the Missouri River, well that Mississippi River, through the arch. So they're trying to recreate an these are people that are aware of a technology. But here's the granddaddy of them all, and it's the Vatican. And why the Vatican is significant is because the Tiber River was greatly polluted in the 14th century. And so much so that that's what it went in Rome, do as the Romans do, that meant drink the water and get sick. Oh. It was a it was people the lifespan of the Roman citizens was shortened because of dysentery. The what they had were pouring raw sewage into the Tiber River, and water quality was a major issue in the 1400s. Okay. So they had a new pope, and he commissioned the obelisk to be built, and it was completed in, I believe, 1450. It's been a while since I've researched this stuff, so I'm I'm I'm flubbing the the exact dates. And about 25 years later, all the water was clearing. The Tiber River still has lower water quality, but the near all the under the water uh quality problem was solved within 25 years in that little short time. That was a major thing. And we see the the Vatican oblast has an iron hat and an iron base, and it's the same. These are this is the array, which is all quartz components, and it's 0.72 miles from here to the river. And I started looking at this, going, what is going on? Oh I'm trying to think of any other ones here that I'm uh missed. Here's actually a good picture of the Vatican.

Claire 25:24

Oh, yeah.

Mapping Fields And Dowsing Experiments

Tony 25:24

It's a Google Earth image. So it clearly looks like there's a sound or something going on. It looks more like a machine. It's a it's a it's a exact it's not an exact, but it's a very similar layout to the Karnak one. So we're seeing this array, um, an array, a long stretch, and then in Luxor back then, there was a there was a canal of water that came all the way up here. The Nile River came in here. They ran it up to the front to these two obelisks. And then uh Washington, D.C. is a similar thing. There's our reflecting pool with the obelisk with a with another part of the array. From here, it's 72 miles, but from here where it's probably is, it goes into the reflecting pool. And I thought, what the hell's going on here? Um what's happening? And I let me let me do this. I made a little reel. I don't know if I got um, I don't have sound in my in my screen share, but I made a reel, and this obelisk that I made this out of epoxy and hematite and quartz, I ground up, and I found that it had a very distinct magnetic field. And you can use dousing rods, and I couldn't believe it. And I did it over and over. And I had so much smaller, I've made 10 of these obelisks, and it's the same thing. I found the same shape of magnetic field that comes out of all of them. As long as you have a ferite, a ferrous um, let me get out of here. That's just research stuff. But I was able to map that there are basically three bands of a magnetic field of an obelisk, it arranges the magnetic field. So the um dousing rods, if you could, I don't know if you can see me in the recording, you guys, but as soon as you break this plane of the magnetic field, which on my obelisk, that one there goes about ten and a half feet each in each direction. So about ten and a half feet out from it. If you break this plane, the dousing rods turn to the same direction. They both go as if it's because it's spinning, because it's a toroidal field is spinning.

Claire 27:34

Right.

Tony 27:34

And then when you break the second plane, they straighten out again. And when you get closer, they kind of have a little perturbation at this one, but it's weaker, and then right over the top where all three of these bands are coming out, uh huh, they cross. Okay. So I found that over and over again, and I started mapping that magnetic field, and I thought, why? What is going on? What is the what is the common denominator here? And um look at this, and so why the long pool, the Karnak head, why the materials? This has got replaced with quartz. This is a big quartz array in here. And uh I want to stop the share so I can kind of look everybody in the face. I started really crunching the numbers on it, and I thought, is it sound? It must be sound. Because when quartz, when you when you press quartz, it gives off electricity. That's what piezo electricity is. Right. So we have it in our head.

Claire 28:35

Right. That's the pineal gland.

Tony 28:37

It's and it's it's crystalline. So when there's pressure from sound, it's giving off a electrical, uh, literally an electrical charge, a weak electrical charge. Quartz does that. Um I'm flipping through my stuff. My little I'm so happy you asked me this stuff, Claire.

Claire 28:55

Right. Well, and and I'll just while you're flipping through your stuff, um, I'll just mention um that, you know, I mean, I was a um Kundalini yoga teacher for many years, and um, you know, that was um uh big uh period of my life where I studied that, and what we're doing in there is stimulating the pineal gland, right, through the movements, through the breath, and through pressure, right? Moving the pressure up the up the spine. And I mean, you know, Joe Dispenza, he teaches that same kind of way of exerting mechanical pressure on your pineal gland to stimulate those crystals that are that are in there, the the quartz that's in there.

Tony 29:36

That is exactly right.

Claire 29:38

And then that's creating the peseo, the piezoelectrical effect, which is which then comes back and amplif, you know, it amplifies itself, and that's when you start to have experiences beyond the be beyond the ordinary um yeah, through stimulation of the pineal gland.

0.72 Miles And Ultrasonic Sterilization

Tony 29:57

That's a specific it causes, well, in other working with Dan Winter, it causes charge collapse. The chart we're all made of charge. Everything is charge. Literally, there is nothing that's solid. Everything is made out of an electron going around a proton, or if I'm saying that right. And the electromagnetic relationship causes a barrier of magnetism, electromagnetism to the next one. And so that's why if you take there is so much space in between our atoms that if you took all the 8 billion people on Earth and took all the space out in between them, we would fit inside of a sugar cube. So that's how that's how much wasted space there is in there. Um, this was early. I was trying to map it. I was trying to map what the field looks like for a real obelisk, and um this is way off, but it's close. Does that make sense what I just said? Way off, but close. Wow. So the weight of the obelisk on this buck is giving off the piezo. So it's the piezo wave is a planar wave, and I don't have a better one here. Oh, the shape of the wave. Um might be like this one. So up here it's less, but down here it's the wave kind of goes out. Um, and then the magnetic wave is a carrier for the electrons. So there's a magnetic, there's a magnetic, uh magnetron, magneton uh relationship with the electrons. So they work hand in hand. Uh is what I'm finding. Anyhow, I want to get out of this here, and I just want to say this on what I found. When you look at an obelisk harmonically from sound waves, if it can generate a sound wave, which it can, the very, very exterior of one of the, I'm talking about one of the big ones, let's talk about the Vatican one. If you were to, there's an array that you could beat drums around it, or you could make hammers with quartz, and you'd beat them together and they would give off pulses. And those pulses, because of the shape of the obelisk, can go in and they release a pulse, a plane, and it's in a planar wave. And what I found is at that distance, 0.72 miles, is about the wave, uh, one wave oscillation of an ultrasonic 227 kilohertz wave. And what that does directly to water is sterilize it. It causes microcavitation, you can't see it, it causes microcavitation, bubble, little bubbles, microscopic bubbles in the water that oxygenate it and break apart and kill bacteria in the water. So that those uh so I'm looking at that result versus these arrays, and then the history of the of the Vatican one, because that's documented. The water quality around the construction time of the obelisk is documented. So I'm c I'm deducing that it had something to do with that.

Claire 32:56

Okay, so so then from your perspective, it sounds like the original organic function of obelisks and those arrays was purification of the water.

Tony 33:10

And influencing the water. So I've what I've the other since the more I go into it, the more it looks like a Swiss Army knife. The other thing that one one um a mystery, they explain it nowadays, they're trying to explain it, but it is a real mystery. The Egypti the ancient Egyptians kept great um records of their grain yields, their harvest crops every year because of the way that the Nile worked, the Nile flooded, and then came back, so their crops were reliable, and they kept metriculous records. And when modern scientists look back on it and go, they didn't have fertilizer or tractors, and we can't make that yield that they had now, if we tried. They've explained it away with some, they have the hypothesis so they could say now it's explained, but it's really not concluded, there's not really conclusive evidence. I'm saying that they were using this array down the Karnak array and several others on the Nile to purify the water and oxygenate the water, and it was far more useful to the plants.

Claire 34:17

Uh-huh.

Consciousness, Water, And Influence

Tony 34:18

Then and then when they and then when you take the Vogel crystal technology and you say that you could put conscious thought shapes into the water, those would translate into the plants and the food supply, and you can alter health, you could make everybody happy or sad. There are historical, there's a war record, there's an old book, I can't find it, that in Cambodia during the Vietnam War, that there was a village that everybody died. And what they when this when the military got there, they found a bunch of dead people and they did autopsies and there was no poison and no cause of death, no trauma, no blunt trauma, nothing. They were talking about you know 70, 80 people. But uh a couple kilometers upriver, they found another small settlement of 20 or 30 guys that were also dead, and they had an array that they were worshiping, it was black magic that they were doing something to the water. It was an array, like they had an altar arranged to the water. So what I'm saying is the same technology. I'm not, you know what I mean? Like I'm not trying to invoke evil here, but I mean they were you you can imbue conscious thought into water for a short time, and they were imbuing it, and the people that drank it got sick from it or became unhealthy. And so we have historical, and then what now we look at the the St. Louis monument, yeah. You know, it's only a couple miles up from the intake of Anheuser Busch. That's where they get all their water for the beer. Yeah, these are on major rivers, so and they're all over the place. So the new Astana, like I said, they dammed the river up and put it there. And we talk about uh uh an ultrasonic wave, a killer wave, they actually have quite an impressive array of three steps of the wave that they can Oscar, they can control it. And then the Washington monument, these long pools like the reflecting pool, the wave can be nearby, it can be a 200 kilohertz, it can be a 180, and the pool will catch it, and so they can imbue the water. And what Vogel found is that in his water experiments is that once the water is ordered, it supersedes the random order of every other water. So you can take a cup of this water and pour it in a lake, and the the what the lake will become what you put in the water, not the other way around, because it's ordered it's got a higher order of electricity.

Claire 36:50

Higher order supersedes, yeah. Okay, okay. So it will actually uh entrain the rest of the water because it has the okay. So so presumably uh if they can influence uh we're talking about influencing consciousness through the water, because water is the physical expression of consciousness, so that can be used for good or for ill, obviously. So are are these obelisks nowadays, are they still functioning?

Tony 37:24

Yes. So the Vatican, when we see the correct arrays, I I'm still so like I said, when I look at how to use one for water, I've got a few experiments kind of set up around the house. Um there's many different ways that you can do this. So what they can run just off the Schumann residence. The other thing that I found, so I bought, I had I had a guy smuggle me some Oswan granite out. I got a big chunk over there. Oh wow, and he shipped it here, and I paid him. I got like 40 pounds of Oswan granite. And and what I did is I grinded some up and I created an obelisk with with ground up Oswan and epoxy and quartz and barium titanate and and it's a little bit of magnet magnetite.

Claire 38:09

Um how do you know what to put in there, Tony?

Tony 38:13

I've been hanging out with electrical engineers for a long time for a while, and you know, living in Sedona, other people are doing stuff with making these things. It's an industry. But one day I had a trimeter. I have a trimeter, it's downstairs. I should have prepared better for our meeting. I apologize, but I had a trimeter and I took I put it on. I was trying for remote viewing purposes. The other thing is all these things overlap. One discovery kind of leads me into another family of things, and I've been doing remote viewing. So I was looking for the EM signature on my porch right out there. So I that's my little meditative space there. I go out there and meditate, it's it's a screened-in porch, it's very peaceful, and there's less uh Wi-Fi and electromagnetic interference interference, which really interfere with remote viewing. Um, so I went out there and I took my trimeter and I'm just like checking it out. I go, what is this? There was like a all of a sudden there was an electrical charge. Like that you see around um uh wall socket outlets. You know, when you buy when you have a meet the meter, you know, by my microphone or any electrical device that spikes when you get close to it. And I went, What is this? And it was the piece of granite. And I went, What am I seeing here? And I held, I was like, check in. I I was blown away. Ran back in and started asking AI, how is this happening? And it said, put it in a Faraday environment and see if it's radiating or if it's re-radiating. And so I have Faraday fabric here, also being a nerd that remote views. I use Faraday fabric when I remote view as well.

Claire 39:50

Uh huh.

Tony 39:51

So I took the granite and I went out there and I wrapped myself in the fabric in a big blanket and pull it up and Took the Oswan granite in there with me with my trimeter, and lo and behold, it gave no signal. It was re zero. It went from 50 to zero.

Claire 40:09

Okay, so the signal that means the signal was coming from the granite itself.

Tony 40:14

No, it's re-radiating it.

Claire 40:16

Re-radiating.

Pineal Pressure, Piezo, And Charge Collapse

Tony 40:18

Picking up my Wi-Fi from way on the other side of the house and amplifying it. Oh. So, and then I went back in and I said, Well, hold on, wait a damn minute. What can it re-radiate? And this is where it gets scary. Um, the RF, so the radio frequency, so RF. So um they so the obelisk could have been a communication device as well. So it could have broadcasted radio. So uh on top of many other things, what we're talking about. When we talk about quartz and the things that it's made out of, um, it seems like I said, they seem to be a Swiss Army knife, and they seem to be a definite machine because they're oriented. Some of them are oriented not correct. So there's one in London on the London, on the Thames River. Uh the Bobley Gardens one is in Florence, the Vatican one is aimed at the Tiber River. We got Astana, the Mississippi River. There's some in Shanghai, Japan. There's several arrays that are and it's the shape of the array, not so much what it's made of. The original, you know, there's only so many original Oswan obelisk that exist, and they're they're not making anymore. But when I looked at that, it does the RF frequency and it does the biophotonic frequencies.

Claire 41:36

Oh.

Tony 41:38

And I went, whoa, what does this mean? So this means that you they it can broadcast an entirely different medium on top of our conscious thought. Your biophotonic. So we're giving off light right now. If we turned off the in the dark and we sat here, we would both be glowing, but our eyes don't see the wave. The wave is bigger than our pupils.

Claire 42:02

Oh.

Tony 42:02

So the wave of light that we give off is bigger and physically bigger than our pupils could see it. So the wave doesn't get in our eyes. It's like our pupils are too big, small of a screen, a window screen. And so it's a bigger, just like the microwave has the little holes. Yeah, that's what that's doing. The light wave doesn't get through those holes, it gets broken, and so you don't get cooked. That's what that's why the all of the visible spectrum fits, the wave size fits in your pupil.

Claire 42:31

Oh my gosh, I never knew that. That's that explains so much.

Tony 42:36

Yes. So your biophotonic light, we are literally glowing. You are are literally glowing light because of your chemical reactions that create electricity. So I went so it started me down after years, after a couple years, and writing my book about the obelisk. I go, well, this does biophotonic too, the Oswan granite. And now think about the inside of the Great Pyramid, where it has several layers of Oswan granite, the same granite, the red Oswan granite, and then a sarcophagus in the center of the thing. And then it was covered with limestone, which is inert, like uh non-conductive. The limestone that was originally on the outside was not, so it didn't let electricity out. It was keeping it in, and now there's a structure under it. I go, what does a biophoton do? Why would anybody want a biophoton? And so we happen to have biophotonic centers around the United States. I don't know, a few dozen of them, where it's a therapy, and it is extremely beneficial to bask in biophotons. So nowadays we have the technology to build solid-state biophotonic generators. Um, but back then they wouldn't. And so this is really dark. And I'm we might have talked about this off-camera or on camera the last time. I said, well, what is what firstly, what do they do? And uh bio biophotons cause the negative ions around water molecules to arrange.

Claire 44:18

Okay.

Tony 44:19

So this is water molecule. My fist is a ball of water molecule, very small, and it gives off positive and negative ions, pass through it and bounce off of it and live around it. So positive and negative ions. In the presence of biophotonic light, which is weak from me and you currently, it's weak. Um, you know, when we talk about lumens of the output, let's say, let's just brand for number just to have a number, it's one one lumen of our biophoton, and it's a water molecule that's near me. Water out, you know, huck spitting on my desk. Right? My biophotons will cause more negative ions to arrange on the surface of it, like a line of negative ones. And what that does is it makes it not accept. Wow. Fuck, I'm just figuring that out right now. Oh, okay. It causes it to not accept other information, it causes a negative, and so the what's inside of it stays there, stays more coherent. Oh my god, that's what that does. In order to make the lumens brighter from me and you.

Claire 45:33

Uh-huh.

Tony 45:34

So it's pain.

Claire 45:37

Pain.

Tony 45:38

If I poked you with a poke you, poke, for that second, you'll become an order of magnitude brighter.

Claire 45:45

Well, that's a bit like with the plants, right? If you when they could measure the light coming off of plants and they would tear a leaf, it would go.

Tony 45:52

Yes, right? That's exactly right.

Claire 45:53

So that's why they tortured you.

Biophotons, Pain, And Ethics

Tony 45:55

Yeah. Well, or a kid, so I witnessed that. So this is we, you know, we call them the satanic people that are out there that do these things. But then I looked, I that's the first thing I thought. I went, man, that's why they torture these people, and then they do it while they're naked. So that's a big secret. Is one of the pieces of evidence when I witnessed this in my book, and I had somebody, you know, they when people were not believing me when I said this, somebody that was high up in a satanic religion said, Describe to me the the ritual you saw. And what were they wearing? And I said, Well, everybody was naked, they just had a hat on, they were naked. Because you would get the most of the biophotonics, you would get the most exposure if you were naked. That would be the best for you. And if you were torturing somebody, they're giving off just just bright lumens of it. And that seems to explain in a scientific way. Like, like I said, nowadays there's no need for that. We have we have the ability to make solid state ones nowadays, but ancient man, they had the knowledge and not an infrastructure. You know, I always say that looking at the what we're saying here about the obelisks, this is you can't do you can't create the obelisk without a laboratory to research, without great understanding of frequencies and and molecular things on a molecular level. So the Egyptians didn't do this without a laboratory. So I they did it with Stone Age tools, though. So I'm postulating that a society that once had a laboratory and lost it was building a technology for their water with Stone Age tools. So a cataclysm, exactly what we see, exactly like the legends, like a like a cataclysm destroyed an advanced society that had access to this. It it had that's the only real explanation because where else did it come from? And the the amount of advancement I'm using AI and other things and you know deconstructing things that exist, and then I had a unique perspective in my life just to for the breadcrumbs of it, and I still don't understand all of it. But um they just whipped these out. They were they put through great effort, they were making 40-meter high granite things with Stone Age tools. And so the and the results were obviously tremendous on water purity that we have. We have we have clues, we don't have anything conclusive, we have good clues for it. And um, then we have, like I said, the the the satanic stuff, the elite stuff that they were doing. Um, what's the other one? Sex. Sex is your second biggest size. Um sexual intercourse would be the second brightest uh biophotonic, you know, stimulation to the body. So apparently, you know, it's along those lines. But pain is the big one. When I asked where if biophotons would come from and what they would do, I should list it right now, but they there is a current therapy where they you go in these places. A friend of mine, when I was talking about this in one of my groups, uh uh one of the one of the members said their parents go to it and they feel great. They had like a rare condition and they go to biophotonic blah um therapy and it's cured them.

Claire 49:09

I'm wondering if this is uh well, the light system, right? That's scalar, uh it's scalar waves, but it's also photonic energy. It's color, it's color and light.

Tony 49:21

Um but I don't think it's the same, but it could be.

Claire 49:25

So bio but biophotons, can you just distinguish between regular old photons and biophotons? Is that just what is produced by biology? Light is that is produced by biology?

Tony 49:35

I looked briefly into the what causes biophotons, and they're very hard to read. They can, like I said, now we have solid state biophotonic generation. We have the ability to do that. You can buy one. Um, but it's not like a regular light bulb, no, it's a much larger wave. The wavelength is different. That's why, like I said, we don't see it. So our standard light bulbs cannot make them. It's a special thing. The I I was I looked into it like, what can I do to make it? And it's algae. I was gonna, you can make bags of algae and slightly electrify the it. And when you get the pulses of electricity, the algae is essentially, I mean, giving pain and being brighter, and you can expose yourself to these. And it's very good for your health. I mean, that's that's the there's no there's no two ways about it. Um, what it does to your what it well, and like I said, I'm just now realizing it. I haven't been researching it recently. Um, but it orders all of the water on you to have a kind of a shield of negative ions, which we also find at the bottom of waterfalls. So waterfalls create a cloud of negative ions, everybody feels great there. So that that's kind of it's kind of the same family of science, what's going on there.

Claire 50:55

Okay, so presumably um the what what we call louche, right? Which is this um energy or um substance that uh is that that humans are preyed upon for might be related to these biophotons. And that might be why um pain and suffering and I mean, you know, when you hear about these satanic rituals that it's all about sex and pain and um to generate increased biophotons. But so it's not good for the person who is emitting the biophotons, it's good for the people who are sucking the louche off of in close proximity, yeah.

Tony 51:44

In close proximity in the dark. Um also there are I think, if I'm not wrong, that the Spanish Inquisition, when they were torturing people, they would do it naked. So that would that would it that would incline me to believe that they knew what they were doing uh in that regard. So it's as sick as it sounds, that's exactly how the science would work. It would have a slight biophotonic um effect on you.

Claire 52:10

But what about elevated states? Do elevated states also cause an increase in biophotons?

Tony 52:17

No. So it's a physiological process. So, you know, you you're when you're in an elevated state, you're actually detaching. You know, it's like less of a physiological thing. When you're talking about elevated, like like in a meditative state?

Claire 52:32

Well, yeah, but I guess what I really mean is the heart, you know. If you're in a in an expanded heart space, if you're feeling a lot of love, um, not necessarily, you know, detaching up here, you know, like I don't, you know, like dissociating from your not dissociating, but leaving your body behind. I'm talking about being fully present in your body with an open heart and feeling everything. Would that have a similar effect?

Tony 52:58

So, yes. So we know from the curlion photography that it's which is basically what we're talking about. Your light, there you go, curlion photography, which um they're very expensive. I would love to play with one around my obelisks that I've made. I haven't even got into how they work, how that one works, and it does work. Um the curlion photography shows us that people have different output anyway. So some people have a big giant field and some have a lower field, and ailments that you have show up. So if you have a problem in your spleen, that area is very dim. And they can tell you exactly what's wrong with you through the curlient photography. So that's ex directly, directly using biophotons, biophotonic emission to diagnose and to do therapy. You know, like they weren't doing the therapy with the photo with the photography early on, but now they now they can.

Claire 53:53

Um right, right. So that so I guess the the uh eye of the camera has to be smaller than the pupil. It it has to see the light.

Tony 54:01

I believe bigger. Yeah, the bigger. I believe it's bigger than the well, and then that's the other thing we're talking about is a wavelength. So the the obelisk can also create wavelengths that are seven, you know, 0.72 mile, 0.72 miles big. That's what I'm talking about here, is one wave that lasts and it's hitting the water as the waves cross at the other end.

Claire 54:28

Right.

Tony 54:28

That's where you're seeing the maximum effect of it actually affecting the water. Right. That's why the array is that big and everywhere it goes.

Claire 54:36

Okay.

Tony 54:37

Everywhere that they built one of these arrays, it's locked into the same size next to the river that they're aiming it at.

Water Ordering And Citywide Mood

Claire 54:42

Okay. So obviously the people who built these arrays knew what they were doing. They they knew. Uh, and and so in modern cities like Washington, the architects of Washington clearly knew what they were doing because that that is a constructed city. It didn't grow organically, really. It just you know was rebuilt. So what so my question is, you know, like where do you see the line between obelisks as organic consciousness tools and you know, or or and obelisks as hijacked components of technological intelligence now?

Tony 55:29

I think that they have I think that they're a Swiss Army knife of a certain bandwidth of energy. So in other words, it's a it's a fine energy. It's a fine bandwidth that we don't use. You know, the modern man isn't really using these bandwidths very well. I could be wrong. Uh could be a tech nerd out there that would correct me on this, that's fine. But we're definitely not using them the way that they did. We're not purifying water, we're not affecting it. We're certainly not doing anything like Marcel Vogel pioneered and proved in a laboratory repeatedly, and then a college ran off with his a private, like a community college, a department ran with his work and proved it greatly as well.

Claire 56:11

Yeah. So it I mean, if if we know what I mean, if the architects of Washington, for example, knew what they were doing, but we're not using it, we're not um taking advantage of those bandwidths, then what are they doing with them?

Tony 56:25

Well, I'm saying they were using them, but but we don't, it's not public knowledge, it's secret knowledge, it's occult knowledge. So imagine imbuing the water of an entire city and making everybody feel angry.

Claire 56:38

That's where I'm going with it. Yeah, I'm thinking they are using it, but they're not using it for good.

Tony 56:44

And then they put out so-and-so's thing and is in town, we're having the vote, we're voting, and if you want to squash this terrible thing that we're you're angry about, you know, then you vote for me. And like it's subtle. Well, not only that, but um in ancient times controlling the peasantry, the overall mood of it. I mean, it's very valuable to an elite, to a leader, to say, you know, we need soldiers. There's a war on the horizon, we need everybody to start making babies, like, or we need I need them to get mad and get out of here. We need to get the people that aren't serious out of here. Like, there's many reasons on the sun you can think of that you would want to use something like this to imbue water with just uh an emotional context, an emotional um manipulation that they so to imbue the water, but also to imbue anything crystal, anything that has crystal. So it's the same exact thing, but it when you charge a crystal, it stays longer. Yeah, it could be uh weeks or months, and you charge water, it could be a couple days.

Claire 57:51

Right.

Tony 57:51

So that's the same exact thing. It's this exact same thing. Um, I'll give you one, another one. So let's do the cup. And I so you saw I had dousing rods in the yeah, I want to tell you guys this for anybody that um is watching. Actually, hey, can it can we pause for a second?

Claire 58:08

Yeah, yeah, let's pause.

Tony 58:10

Hold on one second. Okay, I grabbed a couple prop items and I want to show you guys this. And you can use any old crystal uh or and a cup of water, get a solo cup and some water. You can do this, but I'm gonna I'm gonna use my tea for example. Okay, and I'm not gonna do it live here because I'm not gonna walk around on camera. But you guys can do this yourself, okay? Cup of water, regular old water, and you want to kind of clear it, the clearing thing. So you imagine yourself as fully crystal clear. That no energy, everything in me is clear, there's nothing wrong, and you imagine the water's clear, and it's the snort. You think of all that clarity and then snort it into it. Okay. Water's clear, and then you do the same thing. Here's my a Vogel crystal, and you kind of hold it like this and create a circuit. There's an electrical circuit now, and it's the same thing. You want to hold it up in this area where your own crystalline stuff is held, and you're creating a little puff of uh PZO electricity that goes out a little wavelength, and it's clear, right? So then you take it and you kind of create another, he said to hold it on the facets. Sorry, I'm doing it, like on the pinky and on the facet of the crystal.

Claire 59:28

Okay.

DIY Proof: Charging Water With Crystals

Tony 59:28

And you can give it a little squeeze, and you put in whatever you want. He's they say that love. So the intention of love with charge collapse, either super peace or like uh blissful, like a loving intention. It's probably works like the um biophotons, that it's louder electrically. And so the charge collapse also agrees with this, the Dan Winters physics of it. So a loving intention that is just healing. And you put a loving intention into it. And let it sit for a second. Now you can take it and that electrical that electricity is bouncing back and forth. It's the shape that I was thinking that my brain gave out. And it's going in there and it's escaping. And I'm going to point it to the water. And you just kind of charge the water with it. And then think about pushing all the electricity into the water and giving it another sort of and pushing it. And you can squeeze on it. When you squeeze it, it actually generates electricity. Put it in the water and then let it sit for a few seconds. Get across the room in an empty room. And like I said, I'm not going to do that. I could do this, and I but I've done this a hundred times and it works every single time. It's never failed. When you go back with dousing rods, I like to hold them close to me so that there's no chance that they will. But other people, it's natural. Kind of lock your arms and be honest with yourself. You know, this isn't a cheat. But you can go back and when you walk closer to the water, it will do the same thing. It'll do this, like the obelisk did, and you'll get close and it'll cross. And then if you wait 10 minutes, when you get farther up, it'll it'll do this. It grows. What I'm saying is the field grows from the water over 30 minutes. So the water is so when you first snort it into the water, the surface of the water gets the charge and is giving off the EM field. It's growing. But as it permeates through the water over 15 to 30 minutes, it grows and it actually creates a field. And you like I said, it's the same thing. When you get out to the edge of the field, these will go the same way because it's spit, it's a spinning torus toroid.

Claire 1:01:45

Right.

Tony 1:01:46

And then you'll break through this the exterior and they'll straighten out. And when you get above the water, they'll cross. And you can mess with that on your own. And that that just is proof that these work, that this that what I'm saying, the that your mental intention structuring the water in an electromagnetic way is real. So it's absolute proof.

Claire 1:02:07

That's so important. That's so important, you know, because that shows us how powerful our intention really is. You know, we we are so um, you know, bombarded by toxicity and um attack, you know, through all these different vectors and everything that's falling down from the sky and the water and the pesticides and the mind control and all of that. It's easy to get overwhelmed. But what I always try to remind myself of and share with others is that, you know, we're more powerful than that. We're so much more powerful than that. We just have to realize it and like start focusing our intention, start knowing that. And to have like a real physical, measurable way that you can see that your intention has entered the water and is amplifying. That is that rocks. I mean, that is so we we need that.

Tony 1:03:07

I couldn't believe it the first time I did it. And like I said, I've done it dozens of times, 50, 100 times. I, you know, I'm there for a while. Every time somebody came over, I was like, you gotta check this out. You know, and I checked, look at this. And I would always show people now. It's like old news to me. But it shows that we we are an electromagnetic engine. We're creating electricity.

Claire 1:03:28

You are a generator.

Tony 1:03:29

A lot of a generator, yeah. And we do a lot of maybe that's why they sell us on that bleak outlook of the world.

Claire 1:03:39

Well, absolutely, because you know, we are generating the whatever is going on in here is being amplified in our own toroidal field, right? And and and I love how I don't love it. It's awful, but I'm like, okay, you said it. I'm a generator, you're a generator. We human beings are generators, and we've been told that we're consumers, right? We've been told that we're empty, that we have nothing in us, that we need to get, that we need to acquire and consume. It's the complete version. Yeah.

Tony 1:04:10

Take some pills.

Claire 1:04:11

We've got it all in ourselves, right? Yes. But it depends on what we're what we're literally generating in our mind and with our intention and our emotional field and everything, because it because we're under so much pressure, uh, so much um, you know, density of what we're dealing with right now on the planet is super, super intense. It if you start going down a spiral, you know, that is not that is not positive, um, then yeah, I mean, that's what we're generating. And we just don't realize the power that we have.

Tony 1:04:48

It's true. Well, and when we look at it, you know, I would imagine that emotional pain does give off biophotons as well.

Claire 1:04:55

Oh, for sure.

Tony 1:04:56

Intense emotional pain is the same, probably it's a physiological response to it, you know. It's probably to alert others in nature. You know, it probably we probably adapted that way so that if one of us is getting eaten by the lion, the other rest of us can feel it biophotonically from the bright light that is over the corner. It's a it's literally information carried through light that we feel. You have to be you have to feel it and not you can't because you can't see it.

Claire 1:05:25

Yeah, yeah.

Tony 1:05:26

I'm reasoning this in real time with you.

Claire 1:05:29

I love it.

Human Generators And Intention Power

Tony 1:05:30

Uh so that was just one thing from just hanging out with people that led me down a road of discovery for it. Um, so the obelisk behind me, uh again, I was like, well, I want to I want to build one, I want to try this. And when I started when I started seeing this, I thought, what do we do with this? And so I uh Dan Winter was a big help, and other people that I spoke with were a big help. And I st I started, you know, I acquired the component. They were expensive to do. But um what I did was take a piezo pickup and run it through a Bluetooth little little box and put it at the bottom of the obelisk, like my like my my uh diagram came up with where the magnetic field is. So a lot of things I don't know exactly what they're doing, I just know they do something. So I arranged for them to happen. But anyhow, I put a little piezo pickup, and then if you run it through shungite, it it greatly increases it. So a little tiny piezo pickup that makes a little sound. If you play a song on it from your radio, from your you know, from your MP3 player, and you play a song, it's just very quiet. You can barely hear it. But you put a piece of shungite and it's letting the electrical signals out of it, it greatly amplifies it. I put that on the bottom of the obelisk and I play harmonics through it, isochronic harmonics. And when we mimic uh the Schumann resonance, the 783, which is theta for brainwaves, when you mimic it and you sit inside that 10-foot bubble of a magnetic, people's remote viewing scores went up.

Claire 1:07:11

Oh, interesting.

Tony 1:07:12

So I have people that are remote viewers, and we have a scoring system, and somebody that averages 12 to 14 every time I put them in front of the obelisk, and then all of a sudden it's 17s, 18s. And so, because it's not just listening to the sound and going in through your auditory command, but it's permeating your cells, your cellular level, your whole body. And when because of the quartz content, it's every all those vibrations on that pulse are creating electricity from the piezo effect from the quartz being being mechanically vibrated. And so, and then that little super weak electricity is riding the magnetic the magnetic bands. You know, I can never can pronounce it, the magneton, the magnet, magneton, you know, the little the the electron version of the magnet, magnetic spectrum. Anyhow, I always pronounce it wrong. I don't have the word for it. But the elect the electrons that the quartz gives off that are in the same hertz as the recording, ride the ride the magnetic because otherwise they wouldn't go far. You know, if I just did it in only quartz, the electrons wouldn't go very far. So when it's in a ferrous thing, which is a ferrous material, it rides the magnetic band and goes out, like I said, about 10 feet from the anobelist that size, and we can measure it with these. We can measure it by walking up to it. And then I can give them to hand them to anybody in the house and they can walk the same same distance. And when we run the harmonic that your cells give off electrically when they divide, it's in the 53 hertz spectrum. When we run that harmonic, um, I've ran the obelisk next to where we sleep, and I've people have gotten better. It fools your cells into thinking they're dividing, and you begin to heal on a cellular level. It's like it stimulates cellular uh reproduction. Oh wow so it's been very healing. Uh some people were very including myself, but I'm also not in line to get sued by the FDA or claim that I'm medical treatments or medical excess is not a medical treatment. I don't know the legal nowadays. You can't do stuff like this. You can't tell people you have a medical something that'll make them that'll fix them.

Claire 1:09:38

Yeah.

Tony 1:09:39

You go to jail. So what I'm saying is we've had some um positive results in doing so. So I have a suite of things that I can add to those concentration, uh, gamma, hertz, you know, just different things that mimic different brainwave states. So when you're concentrating or reading, you can play that with the obelisk nearby and have a nice little reading nook. And that is something that came along. So I've spoken a few of them.

Claire 1:10:04

Yeah, yeah. So, so, like, for example, if you're listening to binaural beats and you're sitting near the obelisk, it's gonna pick up on, it's gonna amplify whatever's coming off you. I'm just talking in like super layman's terms.

Tony 1:10:17

Very, very weakly. So I would play it through the obelisk. So we actually the obelisk actually has a speaker with the shungite enhancer that causes a much stronger piezo output. So if you're listening to a bineural, let's say like a, and I'm just throwing out like a 40 hertz for concentration, close to, you know, like a gamma, 50 hertz in the in the gamma spectrum, is when you're concentrating and you're doing a lot cognitive load, when you're working, when you're most awake. And you're listening to that because you're gonna read or whatever it is, and but it's only going in your ears. And it's your brain is getting entranced to that, and so it's it's right here. So this much of you is tuning into that, which is very powerful, very effective. When you run it through the obelisk and listen to it, now your whole body is getting that in electrical sp in an electric. So it's like taking a bath in the sound. It's basically converting the sound into static electricity that's the same Hertz as the sound of what you're listening to. So your entire so all so when you're listening to it, only your brain that's connected to your ears, your brain cells are getting the effect. But when you put in the obelisk, you have other neurons and other brain cells in your body throughout your digestive tract, and down, those are getting it too. And so I found a little uh it's it's it's an effect, it's a real thing.

Claire 1:11:39

It's a resonance, it's a greater resonance.

Building Obelisks And Healing Frequencies

Tony 1:11:42

People that come over, I've had people, I've entertained people um, you know, and had one on on the kitchen on the coffee table on, and I say they go, and the nobody notices, it's not like you can feel it. But what happens is um, you know, out of a few dozen people that visited, they go, I'd show them the house. I had a long in Sedona, I had a long house. And I'd say, well, come on in. This is my office, and I do all my shows here, and you know, this is the other room, this is the guest room, and they'd go to where the obelisk goes, Man, I really like it in here. Yeah, this room's got a great vibe. They would say, you know, and then so I would set them all down and then I would turn it off. And they would and a few people, not everybody, a few people would be like, What did you do? They wouldn't even know. I would just unplug it, you know, and they go, What did you do? Something feels weird. I feel sick. You know, I they would feel the negative, they would feel it missing. And uh a few people, um Lily Nova came over and Jean-Charles Moyen, uh-huh. And they specifically, well, they they walked in the room and went, right, what is going on here? They would go, What is this? And then we'd be talking, I'd turn it off and they would go, they would immediately know it. So some people can feel it other than better than others, is what I'm saying. Like some people can it's very subtle, and some people didn't know it's like, and I would try with people, so you didn't feel anything, and they wouldn't. So it's just it's just a condition or you know, individually we feel energies differently.

Claire 1:13:10

Yeah, yeah. Well, and you you mentioned last time we spoke that some weird stuff was going on in your house in Sedona. Did the obelisk mitigate uh the energies that were coming at you from the that other array?

Tony 1:13:23

There were some things uh so shungite did it. So I I surrounded myself with a ton of shungite, and that was that did mitigate some things, and then I did run the obelisks near me, you know, on each side of the bed, and then I would run them at night, and uh I still do. So I got a really bad um, and again, this is not medical advice. Sorry, yeah for for for disclaimer purposes, but I got a really bad poison oak recently. I got I got a gnarly rash, and I was getting swollen. And when I did the they were like go to the doctor and get on steroids, and it was getting worse and worse. I think I did you we might have talked about this last time.

Claire 1:14:02

It was getting worse and worse.

Tony 1:14:05

And I finally I took out the I grabbed that obelisk and I set it up. I put a bunch of them on the bed and ran it, and then the next morning it broke and it started getting better and better.

Claire 1:14:15

Okay.

Tony 1:14:16

Like it was that it was that night that I ran the out because it was it was spreading. It was, you know, it was very uh inconvenient.

Claire 1:14:24

Well, and and so when you say run the obelisk, you had you you were running certain frequencies.

Tony 1:14:30

Yeah, the healing frequencies through the obelisk. The ones that I've sold, I sell with four frequencies learning, concentrating, working, meditating, and healing. Okay, and so those are different frequencies that are you know conducive to those minds mindsets.

Claire 1:14:46

Yes, yeah.

Tony 1:14:48

Um the biophotonic stuff I really want to get into next, but uh you know, again, I gotta tool up. I I keep thinking of these when I when I when I do this stuff and I go, man, I can make money. This would be a great seller. I can have make money selling them. But then I make a couple and then I keep researching new stuff. I'm not a businessman on that end, I'm not, you know. They are expensive to make. So on a scale of piezo output, quartz itself is like 16 to 18. And when you add barium titanate, barium titanate is 1600.

Claire 1:15:21

What?

Tony 1:15:23

So I put a I put a a cup or so in each one. It's very expensive to get.

Claire 1:15:27

Right.

Tony 1:15:27

It's it's difficult. I had to get it from China. Um, and uh, it's very expensive. So I put that in there, and then getting the quartz ground down to nano quartz is a huge laborous process. I went to Tucson and bought like 200 pounds of quartz diodes. There's one.

Claire 1:15:44

Oh, okay.

Tony 1:15:45

So I bought a ton of those and I bought a machine that grinds them up, and then you got to sift it out to get the really fine powder. So it's difficult, they're not easy to make for sure.

Claire 1:15:55

Sounds very labor intensive.

Tony 1:15:57

It is, it is for each one. And people I sold one, told two, two of them uh to uh one person, and it took me forever to fulfill the order because there's just so much to it, and I felt bad. So I won't sell them like that again. I'll only make I've got three of them that are on deck, and I'll list them as they come, you know. But it's it's uh there's other shapes learning from that technology. So you should be able to go into the ultras ultrasonic harmonics and regrow nerve endings.

Claire 1:16:23

Oh my gosh.

Tony 1:16:25

So it should be able to do it in a bath, like an obelisk that you put in the bathtub with you and turn on. It won't be an obelisk shape, it doesn't need to be the shape. The obelisk shape seems to be um for a harmonic cascade. So, like I said, it's a Swiss Army knife. The obelisk is not, they didn't build it for one purpose, it had several purposes. So the science behind it shows me that the more I look into it, there's more things you could do that are optimal for those for the actual Egyptian ones. But it should be able to take the same technology and put something in the bathtub with you. And for people that have um, you know, nerve nervous nerve endings problems, uh nervous disorder, you can grow regrow the nerves. It can stimulate nerve growth.

Claire 1:17:11

That sounds amazing. And and what about uh just uh occurred to me when you said bathtub? Is do you think there's a use for this kind of technology in uh getting nanotech out of people?

Tony 1:17:24

Hmm. Well, you'd have to look. So nanotech is not a one umbrella. There's a lot of different things you could do there, but uh you absolutely you can perturb things. You know what would be neat is to make a real magnet and magnetic one. So um the other thing is certain size obelisk. So I'm looking at the at the harmonic one, one that's specific for harmonics to cause the water. I'm actually have the drawn up one to build one and actually and build. I have one, I have a passive one built out in my yard, but there's never I'm not really testing it, but it's passive. It basically is using um atmospheric charge and then converting that. So I don't know what'll happen. Maybe you know, as time goes by, we'll see if the grass grows better around it or something.

Claire 1:18:13

Right.

Full-Body Entrainment Through Obelisk Audio

Tony 1:18:13

Um, but it was just like kind of mess around. But I I want to make like a a very magnetic one, and that would do things like that. So a huge electromagnetic one that has uh that you could tune to different frequencies.

Claire 1:18:27

Okay.

Tony 1:18:28

And you can a lot of guys have that already. So the PEMF, the PEMF uh devices that everybody, you know, you can buy a pyramid all over the place, and they're expensive. The they have the mats. The PEMF therapy is kind of the same thing. It's using a Hertz through electrical pulse, but it's magnetic pulses, not not the PAs, not the static electricity, but it's a magnetic pulse, and that's actually an effective therapy. That's a good therapy. I want to put one in the base. I actually have designs for a little coil to put it in the base so that it does both. So a PAMF, you know, all in a bubble around it. And you know, they'd be nice to set up and then make a even a lamp, its own pedestal. Like I have designs to do all that stuff, but as I discover, um, you know, Sun Sun Zhu said, um, you know, as victories mount, opportunities multiply.

Claire 1:19:24

Yes.

Tony 1:19:24

And that's kind of what's been happening to me. Once you look once you learn one thing, the possibilities multiply, and I start go looking at all of them. So I'm it's not like I'm just bullheaded, like this is my obelisk company. I I've just learned the technology and I built it to test it. And I'm on to a few other things recently, and I'm always going back to remote viewing because that's what I love to do. And we've made a lot of progress with that recently as well. So um learning how charge collapses has led me to reinforce a membrane theory, and so there's in physics. They haven't really sorted out the universe, so they have theories that don't make sense, they have it disproved. But with remote viewing the near future and the methods around that, it really lends to a membrane theory or brain theory. And uh just recently, with some discoveries with remote viewing experiments that did that, that really reinforced membrane theory. I uh I know I'm going down a whole new road of research in that regard, too.

Claire 1:20:27

Wow.

Tony 1:20:28

So that one's like caught off the press. Anyhow, um, it'll come back to the obelisk with a with the correct charge, with the correct charge harmonics for to do things like that.

Claire 1:20:40

Uh well, I I feel like I still have I still have a million questions because it's all so interesting. Um, but now you you said in your next book, are you gonna be are you addressing this kind of thing in your next book?

Tony 1:20:54

Yeah, so I've got to get it all in in row, uh all these ducks in a row. Um I know I'm a scattered brain and I I own it, that I am a scattery brained person. And um, but I gotta get all my ducks in the row because some of this technology is uh very useful, especially we talk about a passive water treatment. So we're chemically treating our water with fluoride and hot and chlorine dioxides.

Claire 1:21:19

It's like so stupid.

Tony 1:21:21

Chemically treating our water, and we don't have to. We we could set these up around, we could set these up here and there, and the water would be oxygen, not only would it be healthier and sterile, but it would be oxygenated as well. Well, we don't oxygenate our water.

Claire 1:21:36

Have you heard of the guy? I forgot his name, um, but he's a water scientist. Uh, and he and he um several times I've thought of him when you were talking about the fields and everything, and uh, because he uses crystals and pyramids to vortex water, uh, and that purifies the water and not only purifies the water, but it generates a healing field uh all around the the and and he and he's he's made they're like art, you know, they're really beautiful, and he uses light, colored light, and you know, I mean, so this is the same, these are the same principles in action.

Tony 1:22:14

Yeah, I'm not inventing anything, I'm just trying to figure out how it works and going in that regard and then looking at history, it looks like they knew back in Egypt, ancient Egypt, you know, 2000 BC, it looks like they knew this, and they had huge facilities to do it on a macro level for the entire Nile. Yes, and um, but no, I'm definitely there's a lot of people out there that have really good stuff. There's water companies that have there's a jug, and you put jugs around them and they're each charged. And you know, you can imbue water, and if you drink it all the time, it's the same as praying for your food. Yeah. Praying over your food changes the water molecules in it.

Claire 1:22:54

Yeah.

Tony 1:22:54

Well, I mean it's the same thing.

Claire 1:22:56

But partly what I what I'm getting at here is that we I mean, you have back-engineered all of these things that you remember, you know, because that's part of your journey to go back and like fill in the blanks and and I remember this, and how can I recreate it? How can I, you know, and I and I I totally understand that that's how you've come at all of this, and now you know it's just developing more and more. But we must already have all of this technology available. I think all the technology is already here, you know what I mean? Yeah, and and they're just not letting it out.

Mitigation, PEMF, And New Designs

Tony 1:23:29

They're just keeping it for themselves, exactly. The people that have had this all through history. You know, the Egyptians had the the Vatican, which turned up with this array in the for in 1454, I think is when they erected it, had all the Egyptian scrolls. So the Library of Alexandria and the Egyptians, when they when they Rome took over Egypt, you know, when the Romans conquered Egypt, all the scrolls and the knowledge ended up in the bottom of the Vatican. And then here we have the Pope getting an Egyptian obelisk in his town where everybody's dying of dysentery, and 25 years later the water is just fine.

Claire 1:24:09

Yeah.

Tony 1:24:10

You know, like I know that it's not conclusive. I I understand that I'm speculative about a lot of things, but I mean there's only so many, there's only so many things that speculate before you have to take notice. And again, with the little experiments, like I said, with the Vogel crystal and doing that in water, we we are seeing an easy way to perturb and prove that we're perturbing the way water works, the energy, the uh the electromagnetic spin of water. And that means people, and that means large water supplies, and on and on and on. And um, you know, there's more, but uh a lot, but basically quartz is a is a huge quartz crystal is a huge um has a huge influence on water and water water quality. So these things all came together. I'm just noticing it from from what I remembered, and um from the people that I hung out with. I guess that's the other thing is I can't take all the credit from memory. Uh a lot of the people that I've met along the way have taught me a lot of things, and so I'm just putting it all together.

Claire 1:25:14

That's amazing. Well, I mean, I just uh love the work you're doing, and I mean I I I know that you you have a lot of projects and and that you're moving, you know, you're you're just developing and moving on to new things, you know. But um I I kind of still hope that you'll you be able to sell some of these.

Tony 1:25:33

Well, I guess I got three of them down there. I have one with the Oswan Granite, it's a beautiful red color, and um I still have a bunch more to make that they're actually pretty enjoyable to make. You know, like if you pick a day and make a craft day and sit out and if I sit out in the garage and just make them, it's actually quite enjoyable. Just put on music and and mess around in the garage. It's not tough, yeah, but it's time, you know. And then uh recently it's been cold, you have to do it at a right temperature to pour them uh, so yeah, and it's also hard, it's also complex to explain to somebody that doesn't know. Yeah, you know, if it's like you're talking about a product and they go, How does this work? What does this do? And I said, Well, you're not gonna feel much, but it'll have an effect overnight, you know. You just leave it on. I like to turn them on while I'm working around the house and I'll put a gamma frequency in there, and I like them on. The first time I did it with the healing frequency, I tested it, I put it for an hour. And to see, and we were kind of like, uh is it gonna mess us up? And uh, you know, we were like, nothing, nothing happened. So I said, Well, I'm gonna do it for 10 hours, and I'll just leave it on while I go to sleep. And it will technically it should be a field. And I did, and then after the third night, uh my girlfriend who had a really bad like a bladder infection and was always in pain after even after being treated, after the bright correct, it's always in she always had a pain in her bladder. And uh for a long time, for for like a year, she was in constant dull pain. And on the third day, she said the pain's gone. Wow, she went, Oh my god, she still was kooky, and she you know, she was like, You're a genius. She was like in shock. She walked around in shock the whole day. She's like, I can't believe you did that. You know, that that's what happened, and myself too. And I had physical problems that went away that you know that elite it doesn't cure you, you know, it helps you. Yeah, and so to explain that to somebody and market it is really challenging. So to do it on a scale where I could have a shop and we made them all the time, it's like it's a big challenge to go to that level. So it's it's a hobby right now. The harmonic, the um the software I bought, well, I talked about this last time for the learning company that I'm getting going, media. Yeah, I bought the uh I bought the audio software and hardware, and that let me make the binaurals and it let me make the audio stuff to jet to do that. And but those binaurals and the the subliminal stuff are really effective, and that company is going well, actually. So scion.com is actually going good, and we're gonna have a complete makeover by the end of January. It looks like it'll go live, and we're gonna introduce three or four new products there. But that's like an ongoing thing, and I add the brain entrainment with white noise and then music we talked about. This but with subliminals, yeah, with phase canceled subliminals, and they're I just did the last one I just finished last week was for stress, and it works. I'll be I'll be damned if it works if I find myself listening to it and then not really caring about what happened the rest of the day. Like you kind of decouple from it, like, yeah, I don't care, I don't see why that's gonna be a problem. And I go, you know, it's funny because I'd be worked about this last week, but yeah, I think that'll work out, you know, it's the stress one, and it's just it's a new form of not a new form, but it's a it's a form that we don't get exposed to much of our own self-hypnosis, like a subliminal programming for your benefit. We get subliminally programmed for somebody else's benefit.

Claire 1:29:13

Yeah, yeah.

Tony 1:29:14

So that's that's what that is.

Claire 1:29:16

So yeah, maybe steps are are those um available now for download? Okay.

Tony 1:29:23

Actually, the stress one is on there right now, so yep, on scion.com. But that website, because we just threw it together, you know, out of like I said, they I stumbled upon these and I thought this is a good idea, and I put them on my Patreon and they got people ate them up. And so I wanted a public site that doesn't, I don't I'm trying to get away from from these things being tied to my testimony of aliens and such.

Claire 1:29:48

Right, right.

Tony 1:29:49

So we created Scion and it's clunky and it's grown, and it really is a winner. So you run with your winners.

Claire 1:29:56

Yeah.

Tony 1:29:56

So I'm having a complete redesign on the butt. It'll be a good looking site here and uh by the end of January. It's gonna be really um professionally done.

Claire 1:30:04

So cool, cool. Well, by the time we air this, uh then it should be done and we can uh put the uh info in and and people can benefit from that. Fantastic.

Tony 1:30:13

Check it out. I'll say this to the people watching. Check it out. If there's anything that you want, you can always contact us there because I I intend to at least put out one product a month or one every two weeks until we develop an app that'll actually generate its own things. So there's a lot of things. It'll be the app will be self, you can prescribe what you want and it'll assemble it and play it for you.

Claire 1:30:34

Amazing.

Results, Limits, And Use Cases

Tony 1:30:36

So that's that because some days are different than others. Some day, you know, today I'm gonna be presenting, I'll be on stage. So I need to get over my fear, and I need to get busy, and I need to concentrate. Boom. And it'll assemble those with the subliminal scripts and play it so you can self-prescribe what you're trying to do for yourself, and it'll just re reinforce your intentions, you know.

Claire 1:30:58

I love it. That's such a great idea.

Tony 1:31:01

It's a ways away, but it's it's I already have an early version of it that's promising.

Claire 1:31:06

Fantastic. Wow. Well, thank you so much, Tony. This has been amazing and uh so much food for thought. And uh, I just feel so privileged that you uh have shared this time with me, given me so much of your time.

Tony 1:31:23

It's the other way around. Um it's the other way around. People don't let me nerd out, you know. And uh I was at a loss for words a lot today. I was kind of unprepared, but I think you guys got the gist.

Claire 1:31:34

Oh, for sure.

Tony 1:31:36

I love I work on this stuff all the time, and I don't really get to talk to a lot of people about it. So thank you for having me and and let me let me nerd out for a bit. It was cool.

Claire 1:31:44

Yeah, yeah. Well, I love to I love a good nerd out myself. Yeah, you know, um it's been really fun and uh yeah, I'm very grateful. Thank you so much, Tony.

Tony 1:31:54

Okay, thank you.