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The Intelligence in Our Waters: Plasma, Self-Love, and the Body’s Hidden Language
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In this episode of The Grace Space, Claire Lautier speaks with researcher Fiona Gardner about the hidden intelligence within the body’s plasma and the terrain paradigm of health.
Through years of microscopic observation, Fiona has been studying the dynamic field of plasma within blood and urine (ultrafiltrated plasma), observing patterns that suggest biological communication, emotional imprinting, and coherence within the body’s waters.
Topics covered in this episode include:
- Plasma and the terrain model of health
- The intelligence of bodily fluids
- Urine therapy (shivambu) and self-healing traditions
- Trauma and emotional imprinting in the body
- Water consciousness and biological coherence
- Reclaiming trust in the body’s innate wisdom
This conversation invites a radical rethinking of the body—not as a mechanical system to control, but as a living ecosystem with its own intelligence.
Fiona Gardner is a Holographic Microscopist, researcher and visual explorer whose work reveals the dynamic relationship of plasma and water. Plasma is not simply the fluid of the blood, it is a dynamic field where the body’s internal waters organize, respond and communicate with the living architecture of life. Using the lens of the microscope she observes the living motion of plasma, observing how the body’s internal waters organize into intricate geometrical structures and living expressions of meaningful events. These formations often mirror the structures seen in the natural world, the same intelligence that shapes galaxies, rivers and snowflakes are organizing within our blood. Through years of observation her work raises profound questions about the nature of plasma and the role of water in the body. Her visual presentations invite us to see ourselves as living art-patterns of consciousness. Blending curiosity and wonder for the creation of nature and life, she opens a rare window into the microscopic world within us, revealing a simple and profound thought : the same patterns that shape nature maybe shaping us.
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Welcome And Fiona’s Path
ClaireWelcome to the Grace Space, Fiona. I feel like it's been a long road for us to be able to coordinate this, and I'm so so grateful that you're here.
FionaOh, yes, thank so thank you so much for the invitation. And it it kind of has been a bit of a journey. But like they say, it's all in divine timing.
ClaireYeah, exactly. Well, I mean, one of the I've been following your channel for a while now, and I just been so inspired by these amazing images that you you continually post, and you know, um, I I just would love to hear something about your journey. Like, how did you come to do what you do? Can you explain like what it is you do? Uh the elevator speech version of what you do, and then uh we'll we'll go from there. Right.
From Germ Theory To Terrain
“It’s In Your Waters” Awakening
Urine As Plasma And Self Love
FionaUm, so I think it probably so because I work with a microscope, so I feel like, okay, so context for it is um I I work for the Beagleson Academy. I've kind of been in that um environment for over since 2010. So um I didn't have like any official training with a microscope or stuff like that. So it was pretty good not to have any training and be trained by a certain group of people to learn something new because I was um I was learning a lot of different things about the body, especially when it comes to um like gem theory and terrain theory, you know. So uh the Beagleson Academy is very um is it's all about like terrain, terrain, the terrain paradigm, you know, the intelligence and the design of the body um and that innate wisdom. Um and Harvey Beagleson was my um doctor at the time. So I was learning a lot of things, and I was learning how they look at blood in a very specific way, um, where they're looking at activity and what what Harvey was explaining to me, like the plasma field. And I'm like, what's what's this plasma field? You know, you know, I was so excited. And he would explain to me how it's it's actually our chi life force, and he could tell looking at somebody's blood at this like plasma field, he could explain their vitality, their health, you know, so many things just on this activity and its tone. Um, and also the way we look at blood at the Beagleson Academy is we look at holograms. So we're looking at an image um that represents somewhere in that person's body where there's a block, where there's stagnation. Um, and that's usually related to emotions, past experience. And you can see how the body is still holding on to those experiences, and how that person's health, vitality, and life is still being governed by that experience. So that's kind of where I came into that um of learning about plasma, what plasma is, that's okay, it's his chi life force, and okay, wow, this is incredible microscope. Because one thing I've always been fascinated with as a child is the small world, you know, of even taking like the macro photography, I'd keep wanting to go deeper and deeper within the smallest, smallest thing. Because as a child, this I always had the and it was just always there as like, yeah, I've got to see God's face, you know. It was kind of like this thing, you know, just and I don't want to even go into my childhood too much, but it was this exploration of who is this creator, this God. I I want to see his face, you know. Some people would say, Oh, you are the doubting Thomas. And I'm like, no, it's just I just come wired in this time. I just want and it's just like so it's been a search all through my childhood and teenage and life, you know, it's it's molded and mapped me in so many ways. So here I was um with Harvey Beagleson, um, and learning this new thing about my body, and knowing that I always believed that um that we were incredibly powerful, intelligently designed beings, and all this stuff, you know, even as a child growing up, the influence of the television and media and the things my mom and dad believed, everything I questioned everything. Um, I think it drive drove my parents insane, but I'm innately curious. And as a child, nature um and color and texture just gives me so much like excitement and wonder. So just being naturally curious. So I was in the sorry, so I'll go back to being looking at the blood. Um and I was started, I also started another course at the time where I was looking at soil biology because I was learning the okay about the terrain of the body that were like the soil and the plants and the trees, and and we we operate in in a very similar way, you know, within us. Even our platelets that we have within our our blood, they they're they're plant-based, you know. So there's this connection we have. So I was like, okay, me, let's look into soil. Maybe I want to do soil analysis because I was I'd been in I'd been in agriculture for the last 12 years as well. So I was looking in soil and and it was great. I was seeing all these things. And I think one I heard my teacher when on a podcast we were listening to talking about, yeah, we gotta kill that bacteria that might, and I went, oh my god, here we are, here we are. There's still people because anyone that wants to exterminate, kill, destroy. I'm like, you you to me that's an oxymoron. You just so I was like, okay, I don't want to go in this direction with this teacher, it's not helping in. So I had kind of a meltdown. Because we were in that time of um where we were told to stay indoors, or you you know, so it was that time as well. So I had this like meltdown, and I was like, I don't know what it is I'm looking for anymore. I can't figure it out. I was just raw with tears because I was just and sadness and grief, and I didn't know where I was going or what direction to take. And I'd I'd invested all this finance and money and courses, and thinking this was the direction I needed to go in. And just in that state, um, I just heard the words, it's in your waters. It's in your waters. So I'm like sobbing and like um and I'm like, oh, what I'm crying, and it's like it's in your waters. I was trying to like figure out what does it mean by it's in your waters? I couldn't, um, so I just googled it. I'm like, okay, I'm giving it up. It's in your waters, just throw that out there and see what happens. And then that's when I um came across the urine therapy shivambu. And um, and I I I I can't remember her name right now. Um I listened to an ex her experience as she was starting this journey and what she was doing each day, and and I kept hearing this, it's in your waters, and I was like, so I go, I was googling a lot about urine. Um, and here I am in this terrain world, looking at blood, learning about the plasma field, and I'm type, and it says, Oh, urine is ultra-filtrated plasma, and everything just exploded inside me. I went, oh my god, what the heck? I'm just learning that now, you know, it was like all this, like everything, all kinds of stuff just eliminated itself, and I went bang, and it was like, oh, you know, it's just one of those moments. I was so grateful. I was like, oh my god, you know, so um so I haven't stopped since. I haven't, I just haven't stopped exploring um and really and and it is a relearning, it's a relearning about yourself. It's it breaks down all kinds of barriers, thoughts, beliefs, structures. It shifts your whole self-love lens um to a point of like uh because I know when it shifted with me, I thought, oh my God, I thought I understood what self-love was. And I did not have a clue, but I was like, oh, to all my clients' friends, oh yeah, it's all you know, self-love there, so you know, all the things you have to do to feel feminine and divine and to love yourself and everything else. And I'm like, oh my gosh, this this breaks down so many beliefs and things that I have thought about myself that I have constructed as an illusion in this world because of outer influence, um, and how my perception has been molded um in these ways by these um belief systems that are literally lies and not just lies, information that's withheld, and then misinformation and disinformation on top of that. So to create so no wonder humans feel confused because it's a brilliant way to keep us. Well, I I don't know, should I believe it? Shouldn't I believe it? This person over here says this, and then this person over here says that. Um, so where when so yeah, so being in when I was then taking the my plasma back into my body, and then realizing that oh okay, yeah, you don't die after three days of drinking water, you know, because these are all things I was told, you know, to believe that you do some I was like, so so life changed and I changed and and I've I've stayed hooked since, and there's still so so go back to uh oh, I looked up urine's plasma and I went, no way, okay. So I have to look at urine under the microscope because it's plasma, and in my mind, I had no preconceived really what am I gonna see? I was just curious because I've been looking at water and um and blood. So in my mind, somewhere I thought, oh, I wonder if the plasma has the holograms that I see in the blood. And then I was like, oh, I'm gonna see the plasma tone and activity because that's a part of the plasma when we're looking at blood. So when I looked at it, I was like, yeah, I can see the plasma tone and the activity. Um I was seeing some similar holograms that you see in the blood, but then I was seeing something else, and I was like, okay, there's something else going on here. There's something very different because when we take the blood, it comes out the body. We're actually physically picturing the skin, you know, the produces that is trauma. That's something's trying to break through. So so we're taking blood from the body, from the finger. So to me, my makeup was like it hasn't fully alchemized around the body through the water system, you know, from the heart, the heart resonance, and then into the kidneys, because the kidneys, that's another force-field area that that blood is coming through where it's gonna get it, has all kinds of well, it goes under pressure anyway. So I was trying to explain that. I had no in like I wasn't like thinking, oh, you know, I want to see this, I want to see that. I was just like, okay, we're probably gonna see these things, and it and it was very different. So um, so yeah, so it's kind of like um, I think I I don't know, you maybe I'll stop there because I'm kind of like wobbling on. Oh, well, I I am made of questions.
ClaireI am fascinated, fascinated by everything you said. And there, I mean, you really speaking my language. Uh I I I had a very similar experience um after I really uh committed to Eurotherapy practice. I I had kind of been dabbling for several years, but not full on. And when I, you know, for my own reasons, uh just knew that I had to go full, fully in, I had the um same experience of self-love, the same uh very deep uh embodied realizations about self-love that that you're describing. And I had exactly the same feeling that I had never understood what that meant, that that that what it actually was was completely different from what I had projected onto it, you know, it really healed me, uh healed my self-loathing and and you know, like deep uh more than just personal, but like this programming that we're talking about, you know, where where um you know we've been taught as humans, we've been taught to despise our own nature, you know, it got it was that deep that I felt going into me and healing and like the loving me back to myself. I mean, it was the most uh intimate experience that I had ever had up until then, and I couldn't uh even really articulate it. So it's great hearing you say that because um because I felt uh when you spoke it, I felt the resonance of my own experience. And I I feel that we experienced the same thing there. So um I just wanted to share that. And um I mean, uh, can I ask some basic questions just to situate us along your timeline, um, which is is fascinating. Uh is do you consider yourself a biologist?
FionaIs that your like title or would you um well while I I just call myself an I'm just an independent researcher, okay? Really. Um, I don't have letters or titles after after my name. Um I have studied in lots of different things. Um very curious. I've because I've had health issues since a child. So health and wellness has always been th something that I've wanted to explore. I've always been interested in it because I've wanted to be healthy. Yeah, you know, I've wanted to be well.
ClaireUm the the Institute, the institute that you work for, I'm fascinated. I hadn't heard of it before. What what where where is it? What is their um mission statement? What what are they studying there? And then I want to talk about platforms.
FionaOh, well, um, it's called Beagleson Academy. It's we're online, um, we do everything remotely. Um Josh and Josh and Adam Beagleson, they do a lot of live events um in person and online. So there's a the there is a lot of content out there about them and what they do and how they work. Um what else? Sorry, I I forgot the question.
ClaireI well, I was just curious about the the actual institute. And yes, how did you get involved in? Is that where you started looking under the microscope?
Bechamp, Holograms, And Root Causes
FionaThat was how I had access to a microscope through them with working with them. So um, yeah, I was I was in a pretty uh privileged place. I thought because I'd been on a journey looking, you know, a health journey, and that's to Harvey Beats and because I was at a point where um I just thought I had some mystery disease that nobody knew about. I'd been through medical doctors and the abuse and just all the way they handle things. Um yeah, so I I arrived there with them. Sorry, I keep forgetting the question that you asked. Okay, that's all right. So we do blood consults, so it's all online and also run you know to um so which is really grounded in um looking at your in a totally different way, and it is based in the terrain uh paradigm, so it's like a re-education. Um, and and it's layered, the courses are layered as you go through them, you know, so you learn more and more because some people want to be partners and do this work because it's there's a lot of people that do live blood work, but that's not really what we do. We look in at blood in a very, very different way, whereas a lot of people that look at blood live blood will normally put people on supplements or some kind of detoxification or cleansing regime. Um, whereas we look at the body in a more simpler way because what the holograms are actually showing us, um, they're showing us the like the root cause of something that's going on in the body. So um, so and the body doesn't like to be forced, it doesn't like to be made to do things, it's very intelligent and it works things out very um efficiently because it has an incredible communication system. So this hologram, so so when we look at them, we see the holograms and we go, okay, there's um, so say um I'm looking, I can see like the pelvis area. Say we're looking at a woman, um, and this is recently a friend of mine. So I'm looking at the pelvis, and we can see it looks very black and very brown. Um, and it's twisted into different shapes. Um, and she won't mind me saying this, but this is and this represents like sexual abuse. So she has, she's been sexually abused, and it's still an area from a child, and now she's an adult, that is governing and um is still alive in her nervous system. It's it's not been dealt with, it's it's there's compression on her structure, so the body's holding on to it, so it's still alive. So um I've forgotten what I'm talking about. So um are you seeing it? So we look at like, okay, how do we address that first?
ClaireYes.
Rethinking Detox And Forcing The Body
FionaUm, we don't, and so there could be other symptoms that she's having. So let's look at that, like brain fog. Oh, got a digestion problem, I can't eat, I've got this nervous stomach. Oh, so maybe some say, Oh, we'll give you supplements, maybe you need a cleanse. So when you do that, you're actually like that person might feel better for a few days a week, but what you haven't dealt with is the root cause. It's still going to when you're throwing stuff into the body, like supplements, cleanses, um, detoxes all at once, you're just putting extra pressure on a body that's already compromised. So, how we like to look at it is okay, let's first of all look at the structure and get the pressure, this the pressure off the body from the structure before introducing any other things. Because when you bring the pressure off and you can align the the nerve the the way the cerebral spinal fluid is flowing through the body and pumping and nourishing the nervous system and the tissues. When you can bring all the pumps online, the body can deal with things more efficiently. So it will clear things and deal with it. Then you'll look at the blood again and go, okay, what where's this person at? Is so that's when I don't look at it now as detox. I'm more like when I look at somebody's blood, I'm like, okay, how does the urine therapy actually gonna benefit this person? Because there's a lot of stuff out there, and there has been a lot of stuff out there for a long time of the way influencers show urine therapy consumption and how to do it and just drink it and do it. And you know, there's a um, and I got caught up in that big push in the beginning, and I actually damaged myself doing that, so I learned that there's a process to it, and again, it's like you don't need to put the body under so much pressure and stress. Quantity is not better than quality. It's like, okay, what does the body actually need and what's it actually communicating? And we tend to push and force the body into health. We don't, we as I see it, this is from from my perspective with myself through my life and the way I see my clients or other friends in the world. We really like panic when there's something suddenly wrong and we've suddenly got to get rid of it and get it out of our body. Um, I just feel like our relationship with ourselves is off. And I really and it and it goes right back into that. We've been Programmed to be disgusted by ourselves. We've been programmed to not trust our body. We've been programmed that there's always an outside influence or authority that knows more about your body than you do. Because one of the things I hear consistently across the scope with clients when they get an analysis of their blood, and I hear I hear it all the time, they're like, I knew that all along. And I'm like, I know, and you did. And they'll say, and the doctors called me crazy. They said, stop worrying about that. We're going in this direction. And I knew and I felt like nobody was listening to me. I thought I was going mad and was stuck in those cycles of that I see a lot of people stuck in of constantly going outside to the influence to have the answer to what's going on in their body. And I and I know in the beginning it's great to have pieces of information because people like to have pieces of information. But I really feel it's about realizing that you don't have to force and push the body, that there's really this divine intelligence that you can connect with on so many levels that can impact your health, your wellness, and your vitality. And I know with doing the urine therapy, it just really helped clear out the bullshit. Yes. Well, no, I was just so because I'd sometimes be, oh, maybe there is something really bad that can kill me. You know, and it was, and maybe there is something, yeah, that could do, but what it was is just disconnecting me from my power. So, and I don't want to be disconnected from that, even though I'm very aware of certain things that are going on that people say is a damaging thing. I'm aware, but I don't want to be disempowered in this field, in this Taurus, in this energy field, because I'm I want to um I want to impact my environment. I want to be making the changes and um influencing um the joy and the goodness and the curiosity and the wonder and this divinity of who we are, that we don't fully realize the potential of the energy that is in this body and how we should be using it. So that's how I want to be. I don't want to be going around thinking that oh that um I have to kill and destroy. I don't so Shivambu helped clear this seek and destroy attitude, this disgust that I had, self-hatred about myself, um, which was linked to my to my waters, to just this lower, the lower region of the body, which told don't touch that area of your body. You know, you've got to keep it clean and spotless and hidden away, and um just all the layers of um programming that come from it. Um yeah, so I think that's why I'm really, really like the thing that I'm really passionate about telling people is I don't care if you don't drink it, I don't care if you don't do anything with it. But if you can do one thing and just change your attitude about the water that's coming out your body and bless it and maybe just collect it and water it down and give it back to your plants or something like that. I don't know, I'm not bothered, but it's like to bring the awareness to that relationship that because we it's it's everywhere right now in the communities, we're like blessing our water, you know. Vader Austin has had a massive shift in how we all relate to water, you know, and what she brings. And it's like so so we're blessing it and we're seeing this like, oh my god, this divine intelligence, it's light, it's community, so much stuff. So if we're bringing it in here, let's have the same relationship when we release it because it's the same water, uh, if not just a touch bit more sacred and alchemized in a very different way. It's like, let's just bless it, let's let's shift this um this dirt that we're dirty, that we um have no worth, uh, all this stuff that's related into the um those areas of our body. So yeah, so I'm like, just bless it, love it for what it is, because what I see represented in people's water, I look at it, it's like it's their heart coherence as well, because this blood moves through this Taurus field, the heart, you know, we're just a nest of Taurus fields in our body, and this is where we generate it. Um and that, you know, that this is what we're releasing. It this is this is an aspect of who we are. This is your consciousness, this is your life force, this is your qi energy. Just bless it, just bless it on its way and thank it.
ClaireYou know, because it's got its yeah, describing, and I just want to um just uh underline this, and maybe we can go a bit more deep into it. Um uh I I'm also uh one who uh feels and imagines and sees uh in my inner eye uh this toroidal field around myself, you know, with the heart as a generator and um, you know, what I've been learning about the heart, about it not being a pump, you know, but being a vortexer of the blood. And you're describing these vortexes and these these toroidal, these toruses all around, you know. I'm imagining our blood uh being vortexed through the body by this amazing thing that we call our heart. And then you you said something about the kidneys too, and how the kidneys are are their own kind of like there's a a field around them, a toroidal field around them, right? And and I mean the refining of our blood uh through our kidneys, and the result of that being the urine, um when something passes through such a um such a spiritually divine process as it's going through your body, and we don't even think about it, it's just so whatever. I mean, uh it's no surprise that what comes out is um some kind of uh sacred and extremely powerful uh alchemical, uh I don't even know what to call it. I I was on a uh conference uh last week, I was on a uh summit, urine therapy summit, and uh David Avocado Wolf said, you know, everything that comes out of our bodies, everything that comes out of our bodies is sacred and holy and good for the earth. And, you know, this is about for me anyway, everything that you've said, and everything this is to me, okay, urine is connected to the lifting of the veil, the the the dissolution of the matrix and all of this programming and these systems of control, because it is so intimately connected to us and to the truth that he expressed, you know, that nothing that can that everything comes out of us is sacred and holy. And yet here we are in and um living in systems, you know, having really been forced into systems that um that are in total inversion of the truth. And um, you know, one of those big inversions is, you know, it's dirty, it has to be sanitized, we have to set up sewer systems, we have to, you know, and and so, and then those of course cause problems on their own. We force the water through pipes and stuff like that, and all of that was called progress and civilization. And, you know, we were taught that it was a good thing and that, you know, any other way of life was savage or, you know, um, you know, backward somehow. And I just feel that our relationship with urine and and how it is made in our body is a huge dismantler of the matrix, a huge um uh expander of consciousness. And I know that when I started just purely intuitively guided, uh, started really deepening my relationship with my own uh waters, the scales fell from my eyes. I saw, I saw what I had never seen before. It allowed me to penetrate through illusion in a way that it totally took me by surprise. So um I would love to hear you talk more about um plasma. So um when you when you described looking at this woman's pelvis and you described the hologram, are you are you referring to uh seeing a hologram in her blood under the microscope? Okay, yeah, I just wanted to get clear on that. So you're not like looking at her body and and like seeing through you know psychic vision or anything like that. You're actually looking at her blood at a holog which is a hologram of her being under the microscope, and you're able to see in her blood what's being expressed through her pelvis and the condition that's being expressed through already on the nervous system. Yeah, wow. Like, how do you see that? How would you are we gonna when when we look at your images of urine, are we gonna see something similar that you could sort of give us a basis for understanding?
FionaUm, no. Um I actually, well, yeah, I do have some um some blood images somewhere, not that specific one. I have some different ones that um I could show as just so people could get um a visual idea of what that looks like. Um yeah, sorry.
ClaireSo what so yeah, so yeah, yeah. Well, okay, so because I've seen a lot of images of blood under the microscope, but but mainly with reference to the nanotechnology and the attacks that are happening in the blood. Um not what you're talking about. And so, like this is totally new information for me, and I'm I'm just trying to get my my uh mind around it.
FionaI'm just trying, I'm just seeing if I have it. Um I may have to just look a little bit deeper um at that one, yeah.
ClaireNo, not necessary if it's not easily accessible, no worries. But um, and we can always, you know, cut and come back to it if we want to. Yeah. But um, yeah, um, okay, so when you use the word plasma, because you know, um yeah, we say uh when you explain to people that medically urine is plasma, blood filtrate, you know, um uh ultrafiltrate. Um are you using, are we using plasma in the same sense that we're that we use plasma to describe the fourth state of matter that is found in stars and suns in the universe? How is that plasma related to the plasma in our bodies? Right.
Blessing Waters And Rewriting Shame
FionaSo there's there's a difference in how it shows up, where I think like the way they describe the two things is is is very similar because even that's why I stopped using the word urine, because terminology and shapes words, language shape us, you know, and even through the thousands and thousands of years, language has shaped us. So I was like, I can't call it urine anymore because it's a it's a certain word, it's a frequency. Um, and I was like, it's plasma, and then so my exploration, well, what's plasma? Oh, they supposedly water and it's made of new, and they have this explanation of what plasma is, and I'm like, I still can't, it still doesn't feel right, you know. So then I'm in the space of water, you know, and fluid, you know, liquid. I'm like, okay, this feels more real, but what's plasma? What's this other? What is this? Um, and so this is where we go totally, you're gonna go totally woo in it because I just don't really talk about this stuff. People are like, she's lost it.
ClaireNo, you can talk about it here, right? Exactly gray space.
FionaSo when I learnt with Harvey about the plasma field, so you can see the cells, you know, the red blood cells, the white cells as you're looking through the microscope. But what you see is a lot of space in between. It look just looks dark, you know, like you're looking up at the sky, basically. You know, it just looks dark, and this background can have a tone from grays to very dark black. Um, but within this dark area is a mass of the tiniest twinkling light. It's divine. You you when when I saw it for the first time, I said to I burst out crying with Harvey. I said, I said, I feel like I'm in the universe. There was things that look like stars, and they were all moving around. I said, look at them, they're all moving. So I said, What is this? What is this? You know, and he said, Oh, these are the microorganisms. This is the plasma, this is the field, this is this is your qi life force. So that's where everything shifted for me from germ theory to terrain to what are these little organisms? You know, um the the the Harvey said to me, He said, without them you wouldn't exist. You know, you can't be without them, you can't kill them, you can't destroy them, they just transmute and transform into other things, they're pleomorphic in nature. He says, and without them, nothing lives. So um, and he also um explained to me that so this is the same thing with your urine. This is why I wanted people to bless it and put it on the ground. So these organisms, so when a body is when a body dies, right, these organisms are still alive in you, they're not dead yet. That's why people that do cranial sacral, when they work with cadavers, they say, but why am I still feeling a pulse in the body? Because they're picking up the pulse of the body. So these organisms are now changing and shifting, they're changing into decomposing the body, breaking it down. Um, when the body's back in the ground and they can get broken down, those organisms go back into the soil and they become new life. They become the the organisms in the soil, they become the plants, the trees, they become everything else. It's it's a cycle of life and it exists. This exists within us, and it's and it's indestructible. No matter what they try to do to destroy it, they'll never fully destroy it. Yeah, they can disrupt it with the energetics and the frequencies, but they're not going to destroy it. And I think that's what we don't a lot of people don't realize is that you're actually indestructible. Um, because people tend to think, oh no, the body can break down and die. Yeah, but who you are transforms and transmutes into something else, and what is made up in here goes back into the earth and becomes life. And I sometimes wonder if that's why when we go to places that we feel that, you know, that deja vu, I've been here before. Well, it's probably because you peed there at one point and something grew from you. Yeah. I have all these like bizarre ideas. So, so to me, this is divine intelligence. This is the perfect divine design ever created that's indestructible, and there's a perfect loop that it can feed itself, just like how we've been designed to do exactly the same. And I don't know if this went off the question or and I've kind of forgotten what the question is, but um love it, love it.
ClaireI I love it. Well, we were just talking about the definition of plasma, and that's when you find into the the dark behind the the cells, you know, all the cells that are bumping around, yeah. And then into that you see these microorganisms. So this is the 97% of cells or whatever that are that make up our terrain. We're like only like three percent or something of human cells, and the rest are all of these other organisms that help us, right? Yeah, which is why they have been trying to colonize that with their technologies and take it over and distort it and all of that. Um, and and think, yeah, sorry.
FionaYeah, go ahead. No, it just that brings me then to the mineral body, how um because of our mineral body and the way that operates, how they attack that part of the body also with its depletion and certain things to put into the body that help the minerals of your body. It's like it's creating major havoc within its own mineral body and its system because it knows what to do and it knows how to create the minerals it needs, it knows how to transmute heavy metals. The body is a perfect design, and that's another thing that we've been made to fear is that word heavy metals, um, because that's a big thing about what we are, anyway. Of metals and magnetism, it's part of our energy field. You know, we're so distorted in our beliefs of what was oh, I've got to fear heavy metals because I've got to get them all out of my body. And oh, this person says I have to do it this way, so I'll do it that way. And really, I make myself actually worse from doing that.
Heart, Kidneys, And Fractal Intelligence
ClaireHow do you see that? Um, just because I mean, yeah, obviously we have minerals and we have metals within us already, and we are conductive uh electromagnetic beings. So um is this why urine is the perfect medicine? Because it's already we're we're we're we're doing this biofeedback loop uh and informing the body how to balance itself.
FionaWell, yeah, and the body's alchemizing things. Because anything that is um not of the body, that is not s like um like if we put like implants into the body, say, you know, like just with our teeth, with what we do to our mouths, you know, with foreign things that are not of the body. The body is very um um adaptable and able to strip them things out or transmute them or gather them all in a certain area and try and push them out, you know, to keep them safer in the body so it's not going round the system constantly. You know, we look at like you know, uh like a mass, say in cancer, you know, it's trying to put things in context so it's not poisoning the body. So the body works very efficiently in um changing those things because it's the same with with the kidneys when it's um making that ultra-filtrated plasma, it's got to be perfect because it's not going out just as excess, it's being pumped around the body constantly, and over like 90% of it, maybe more, is being put back into the blood. So it has to be perfect, it has to go in with perfect pH, it's homeostasis has to be accurate because the first place it's going to is right back to the heart, you know. Also, um, with the stem cell production, with how that's operating, it's a heart and kidney communication. The heart is saying all the time if what it's gonna need, what the systems of the body need. Do I need do I need heart cells? Do I need kidney cells? Do we need tissue cells? So it's coming back through, and it's that information is instant. I need this, we need this, go here, do what you need to do. The next flood is coming through. So as it's maintaining this pH and its homeostasis, and what I found with shivambu and the urine is once you're maintaining that, as long as you're not looping and looping, you're maintaining your water system more efficiently. You're urinating less. Um, and this is what I found on my journey. I'm urinating less, I take in less. Um and that's how my body's stabilizing because there comes a point where you shouldn't be just peeing out and peeing out all the time. You don't, it's I'm Still trying to get like my head around that, that it's just like you're just constantly flushing the system and you don't need to, because the intelligence is in the communication, not the quantity that you're putting in, it's the information that's contained within. So even in the smallest, tiniest drop, that's so I've done that under a microscope. I've I've put like um the tiniest, tiniest drop on that, you know, is really even hard to see with the eye. So it's minute. I'm trying to get it as minute as possible, and I look into that and it's still banging with information and crystallization, and even in this tinier, smaller, compacted area, it's displaying information exactly the same in a bigger amount that I could look at. So that tells me that, but I also see it, the shapes and the patterns are very fractal. So I was just gonna say, yeah, so you'll see like a main pattern, but like I was saying in the blood, you know, the darkness spaces in between, it will pack the space in between with smaller, fractaling, fractaling going as I'm looking smaller and smaller. I'm like, it just goes on, it's endless. So um it's not about quantity, it's about the quality of the information of what is being um informed around the body, and there's so much we can do from just how we feel about ourselves, you know, of being in this place, because one thing I did, I mean, I have images of that, was an experiment, you know, to see the influence of intention, just to give yourself a few minutes of focused intention, hard coherence, of creating um meaning. This is a big thing that um see feeling that I've been being shown with the plasma is is meaningful experiences and the importance of creating meaningful experiences with how the plasma um responds. So, like I was saying about the person with the blood with that energy trapped in, it's not that so because it's locked in the uh nervous system, it has meaning, but it doesn't have it doesn't have it's not meaningful in a joyful, evolving way. It has meaning that is being doesn't want to be, they don't want to bring it up, they don't want to feel about it. It was traumatic, it's horrible, don't want to think about it. They're still stuck in how it was when they were that age. There isn't a new meaning created around it. Um, because that's another important thing when you're seeing things like that in somebody's blood, it's like, okay, even though we have to release it, it's like having, I don't know if I'm explaining this, you know, fully because it's just kind of like all new that comes in. Preserved, meaningful experiences um bring more life into the plasma. Oh, yes, okay. So, so yeah, so even like in our relationships, you know, so I was back here, so it's it's being in that intentional place and bringing meaning to the experience, right? Right. And that's deep and heart connected and joyful and uplifting, and it's not, and I'm not like bypassing shit here, I'm not bypassing trauma. Um, this is about um bringing in healing so that you can shift the way the nervous system is responding and relaying this information through your life because what it's doing when the trauma's alive, it's going about you're going about your work, your play, your day. You may see something on social media, this trauma is alive, and um you and it's and it sees the trauma and it thinks, oh my gosh, that reminds me of me, of what happened to me. I'm gonna go into my defense mode now. And whatever that is for that person, what they've ever um built on, created for themselves, whether they stuff it all or whether they rage it out, and it becomes about everything else. It's just about changing the energies that we have around our experiences. So I think what I want to encourage people is to create more meaningful experiences intentionally, because what I've seen with the plasma, when you do that, it changes your plasma, it changes the frequencies in how it presents as color. So um, so its color will change, so it's a frequency shift and change, and its crystallization will change.
ClaireOkay, that I can't wait to see an image that represents that. If I understand you correctly, um, it sounds like this is a recontextualization of experience, partly, right? So if you so that you can move from being in a victim posture in your life, even if only unconsciously, to being in an empowered posture where you're like consciously, I am the creator. I am a creator being and I'm creating my experience intentionally. So let me take everything that's happened and recontextualize that in terms of what I have gained in wisdom, um, what I've been able to let go of. Yeah. And that actually will ch that actually is shown in the plasma when we because it sounds like from what you said too that you in one drop of blood, because of our fractal nature, in one drop of blood is all of the information that you ever need to know about somebody a snapshot in that moment, right? Yeah, and and and and I would assume that the same is true of the urine.
FionaYeah, yeah. I think um with the urine, it's um there's um a lot more information.
ClaireWow. Can we can we look at some some images? Is now a good time to start um a tour of some of the images and you can tell us about what the story that they're telling.
FionaUm blah blah blah. Oh, that's the wrong one.
Defining Plasma And The Living Field
ClaireThere we go. Can you see my screen? Not yet. Um, maybe I have to reshare my screen. Yeah, maybe.
FionaOkay. So this is really early on. So like if we go back to like when I was like looking at urine, um, and just saying I was thinking I was seeing the holograms, so I get an idea of a person's emotional state, the tone of the plasma field, what activities going on. Um but what I was seeing was actual imprints, the so sorry, I should backtrack a little bit. Um, what I was feeling that like some of the images and the formations I was seeing was uh was really unique and really different. Um I what I wasn't like completely sure what I was looking or viewing because I I already knew that what I'm looking at is a very dynamic fluid with what I'd been learning with blood. So so now I'm thinking anything's possible. Um, I was really fascinated by how the biology um was was moving because that's another thing. The the biology, when you're looking at plasma on the slide, it move it it spins in spirals. So it's not just like you see these lights just floating around. We've got toroidal spirals that are building up. We have currents and whirlpools. There's a mass of energy and movement that's going on. There's um it's so dynamic in how it presents itself. So the the organisms have like they're really interested around uh an area that might open up and show something. So I'm always like watching for like what's the activity, you know, what's going on. So I was the I'd only been looking at urine at this point for four months, and this was my own urine, uh, and I saw this image. And as I'm looking at, I'm like looking at it, and I'm like, is that Buddha? I'm like, is that but is that really Buddha? Because I had been seeing some really unusual things because I was only looking at my own urine at the time, so I kept seeing images of somebody that looked they were looking in a microscope, and it looked like me, and I could see the things that looked like a microscope. There was things, other things before this that it showed me that blew my mind. So when I saw this, I was like, oh come on, really, butter. This is like so so I'm not, you know, so I'm in like a massive curiosity. I'm like, hi, four months looping urine. You're high as a kite, man. You're not sleeping. I'm sitting 10-15 hours a day, seven days a week, looking in the scope. Where did I get that energy from? Because I can't do that now. That's like that's intense. So I'm like, oh my gosh, this is Buddha, and it was really. I I remember the stages where I was at, you know, in my life, and it was like, this is, and it was like I was being thought this is really important. This is really, you know, it means something. Um, and to me, it was like because I'm like, I'm an I'm an artist first, I love art, I'll paint, I'll draw, I write, and I was like, this is just pure art. I was like, we are pure art emotion, and this is not like Buddha is communicating to me. This is just like the symbolic. This is um how perception, consciousness, even the you know, the fluid, the the relationship, it's communicating back in a way to me that I can I can interpret. Yes, you know, I am not putting this image onto my plasma, I'm not intending it because it's fur it's far from my mind. I don't even have images of Buddha in the house. You know, it's not I don't follow that tradition, you know, in those ways. So so to me, when I saw it, I was like, wow, the um so this so this image anchored me. It it really anchored me into okay, I'm listening. Uh I really have to like show up and listen, you know, and be in that space. Like, um, so I think it kind of grounded me in at that point. Um that I was I was in a place of devotion at this point. So that was how symbolic it was for me because I was like, oh my god, I am totally devoted right now. I'm not only devoted to myself and my health and wellness and to really figuring this out, you know, this human existence, this body, you know, spirit, divine God. I'm like, okay, I'm devoted, I'm totally devoted. So that's how it um came through with me at that time. Wow.
ClaireI mean, I also see like the reflection of the universal being, you know, the the master within uh the creator, the universal creator. And it's like it's saying that you you are one with that, that that is within you, yeah, that it it is actively communicating with you. I mean, I I and and it looks like on the backdrop of space and the stars, make any of it up, can you and his hands, you know, the hands cape, there's a little foot down here on his knees.
Microorganisms, Death, And Renewal
FionaSo one thing that um I talk about with the clients, with these images that come from their blood, and it was something I learned was it's the same with like, you know, a mandala, you know, when you're looking at geometry, you look at you know, even if you're looking at you know at the clouds or trees, you know, just the formations. So I always share the with the blood images, you know, we can tell you what it is, like and how it's related, you know, to what's going on in your body. But when you spend time with the image, just with like a soft focus, um, for them, their images have got it that it's that again, it's that feedback loop. So to spend time with an image um from their blood is like okay, the eyes, the body recognizes because it knows it came from it came from within itself, but it also knows how to heal that image, and it has so many layers of information to give you visually um to heal. And I learned that with Harvey Beagleson um from the moment that I burst out crying, looking at my own blood. He said, You've already started healing because it's acknowledging this recognition of self. So, what I was finding with the plasma, especially with clients that I work with, because very specific images for them, it's the same thing, you know. So, this image for me has so many layers of healing, but it's also an anchor or for other people that somebody else could also use. So, um, so that's why they're they're so unique and have such depth and meaning because there's so many layers to us um for healing, not just like the physical, you know, mental emotional, you know. We say, Oh, this we're I think we're we're so multi-dimensional and multi-layed. Oh, I know where we missed off about the organisms. I was about to tell you how woo I was.
ClaireYes.
FionaSo so these organisms that you can see, these are kind of like um these are them on the on the image. So I see them as plasma beings, right? So sometimes you can see them, sometimes you can't. They they come in and out when they want to. It's like a point of light that shows itself. Same with the images, it always starts with a tiniest point of light that something emerges from as it comes into you know this physical existence. I actually believed all these things exist. So we were talking about the plasma on the outside. So these guys, all in us, there's trillions and billions of them, and they all have consciousness and they're all they can all communicate, they're all torus, and they're all magnetically dynamic and electrically sensitive, you know, they're doing their thing. So they're plasma being, but I feel that so when we look at the plasma in the outer, you know, the outer, you know, how is it different? They exist there too. The we have like our plasma body that they exist within and communicate within. So they're they're invisible, and like in the plasma, they're invisible until they're not, you know, with the information, it's invisible and unknown until it's made visible, right?
ClaireLike an electron that appears, or oh it just it when when we're focusing on it, or and and I'm I can't help but think, well, as above, so below, as within, so without it's the same being, and we literally are a universe, exactly, and we are existing within a bigger body.
FionaI used to say I would be like, so those tiny lights, I'm one of them like tiny lights in a massive system of other tiny lights, and it just keeps going on like that, you know. Um, and even I mean, it's an image we can show in a minute. Um, I don't know if we anyway, I don't want to jump into that without the image because that's taken in another di so many directions to go. Yeah, so these beings, um, they can be visible and they can be invisible when we look at the blood. And then um the same the out, it's there is a relationship here. I don't like to give it a definition because I find I get myself stuck even with saying it's plasma. I get stuck with definitions because I'm like, it's even like when people say, Oh, well, protons, and I'm like, Oh, what's that? I don't think it's a specific shape, you know. So I look at things more as activity and relationship and then partnership instead of like because we've broken things down into pieces for so long that that's how we've disassociated so much from the body as bits and pieces and parts. I want to take it back to no, it's this unique relationship. This is all a relationship with everything that's going on within us. So then when we're taking in our urine, we are really um we are really committing to that relationship with ourselves. Yes, we're with God, with everything sacred. And I really want to like because I hear so many people and I hear for so many people, well, I tried it, it didn't work, and I did this and I did that. And it's like just take it slow. You don't, there's no rush. Everything else is telling you to rush, and that you've got to get things done really quickly, but you can live a really long time doing things a lot slower. So just like um, so I really want like I really want that for people. It's like to really be able to drop into their body to see this mass of relationship that's going on so that they can then okay, how is your relationship with yourself and your body? You know, it takes it right back. You know, I can remember people asking, Well, what part of your body do you like and what part don't you like? You know, it's like it's just having that relationship with the whole of yourself.
ClaireUm yeah, sorry, I kind of no, no. I mean, we've been so parsed and so compartmentalized, and this is the disease that we've been living under with this imposition of uh an alien consciousness upon our own. And you know, it's just so miraculous to come back into relationship, come back to wholeness, you know. And and and did I understand you correctly when you said so, like this is obviously a static image that you took, but when you're looking at this under the microscope, you are seeing the movement of these all of these plasma beings and the vortexes and the oh my gosh, that must oh my gosh, it's incredible, it is beautiful to watch.
Minerals, Metals, And Alchemy
FionaI'm sorry I didn't have any videos ready for that, but it um yeah, everything's in motion. Um everything's communicating and has things that it's doing, that it's um just even when the droplet is on the slide, you know, you have a whole a whole organization going on on the circumference because there's a lot of activity to keep that circumference stable, to keep the tension, you know. So even in somebody's plasma, that that tension stress level, you can read that in somebody's plasma if it's strong or if it's weak, if if they collapse real easily, if they dry out, if somebody's dehydrated, um you can see those kind of things um as well. Um, what was I gonna say? Oh, yeah, so the whole alien thing, because seriously, I've been into aliens ever since I was a kid, ever since my dad took me outside to go look for like aliens and flying saucers. So I've been totally obsessed. Um I actually feel that all exists within us. Though it's not about being interstellar, it's about being inner stellar. So because this is this is the bridge, this body for all that that's going on that's around us and within us. Um, so yeah, so I I kind of like that um analogy also, and um and I think as well, I've always had that outer relationship, even with these like bright lights, you know, these dots, these moving things. Um, because that was something um when I was with Harvey, I was like, Well, this is fascinating. I said there's so many of them that they're they don't even bump into each other, you know, it's like they sense each other, they all have a relationship with each other. Each other, they're not like chaotic, they're not like, Oh, sorry, I didn't realize you were there, you know, in my pathway. They're they're very aware of, but they're aware of each other before they see each other. So that's another thing that the crystallography shows. Um, and the way the way um it moves through the fluid, it shows that it responds before it actually um before something is visible. So it's already sensed it in the formlessness of what it is, the energetic field. So it's responded in a certain way. Um in a sense, how I can explain that is it mean it mean it comes to a stop. Because I used to be like, why is it stopping? And then I would realize that why it had stopped is because within like a few seconds, something opened up and formed right in front of its pathway. So it stopped to give it space. You know, it didn't think, no, I'm just going right through anyway. So it's these unique relationships of like I know it that it knows itself so well that it knows when things are gonna show up. So it knows where it knows where to place itself, it knows how to hold itself, it doesn't have to take up the space for itself. You know what I mean? It's like it's so incredible to watch, and then within that space that's left, after a few after a minute or so, that fractal, that smaller aspect can fill that space in between maybe where those two creations were forming themselves in a sense. So it's kind of how I that's how we are within ourselves, you know, and to remember that to give ourselves, you know, that space that we don't have to rush, that it's okay, our bodies are listening the time. Our bodies actually got us, it knows what it's doing, and it's been doing it for a really long time. That you don't really have to think about it. You know, we don't think like I have to breathe now. Oh, must remember to take a breath, otherwise I'm gonna die. You know, everything is doing it for for its own um for its own consciousness because it's all conscious, it's all has its own consciousness, its own perception, its awareness, you know. So yeah, so sorry, go off to plan again anyway.
ClaireOh no, no, this is all just so amazing. And I mean, I'm first I feel like I'm in love just looking at the image. I feel so in love with creation, and and I'm also um uh laughing inwardly at how the mind has been so deified when it actually knows nothing. You know, we we have we've been placed under such an incredible restriction by uh thinking that the that the intellect can understand um the ineffable and the uh organization and harmony and dance of uh all creation in its absolute perfection, to think that we can like mess with that and you know have any effect on it uh except for limiting ourselves, limiting our understanding and our um uh you know discovery of who we are is just uh it's laughable um when you see what we really are. And I see each of these little dots as a whole, you know, universe or a galaxy in and of itself, you know, aware of everything else. And um, yeah, you know, it's like you say, right? We can we can just relax and chill out a little bit more because it, you know, we ain't running the show. Yeah.
Information Over Quantity
FionaAnd yeah, to really do, yeah, to really do that, to switch off from the noise, because that's um that's another piece that I see um in people's plasma. I can see when someone is under the influence of the noise that there's distortion, that there's maybe spiritual imbalance because they can't make that connection within themselves, because there's too much noise in their system, that the energy can't communicate efficiently through the system. Um so things get blocked, things get trapped, and you just get stuck in the um a loop of like, I don't know, hopelessness, overwhelm, stress, anxiety. And not to say we don't have overwhelm, but I'm talking more about like systemically, but that's the pattern. Um, and that the pattern is always to look outside the self um to get the help, to get well, um, and not to, but you know, that again, that's a pattern that's really been reinforced and built into people. So I get it. I I do, I really get it. I have like total compassion and understanding for what people get like stuck in and need help and support and need to go to other people. But um, I just think there's a lot of I don't know that I think the whole uh like like you and me, we've probably been in the alternative realm for a really long time of wellness and health and um all the whole conspiracy stuff for a long time, you know. So we can we know how intense it's been, and I think I'm at the point now where I'm like, nothing shocks me that comes out because it's all of well, we we heard that like 10, 20 years ago. I processed that, understood it, couldn't understand why we were still disempowered as humanity and we weren't rising up and why things weren't changing. And that's kind of like the theme that ran through my life a lot to the point now where I'm at the point where I'm like, okay, I can't push that. All I can do is is what I can do here. Yeah, and that is what is gonna have the biggest effect and the biggest impact on this area that I'm living in in my community. And that is so that's my responsibility. It is my responsibility to be well, to be healthy, um, and not to not to pollute other people or influence anybody in certain ways, but really to so that's why what like the plasma and the images, it it felt like such an incredible expression of art that I felt like this people will get this because this is beauty, this is um organization, this is form, this is shape, this is because we you know, and the even the way art informs us, you know, what people create, the colours and the flow, it has an impact and effect on us. So it was always my desire and like dream to have a room filled with the images that people could just be immersed in, just to take in the effect and the calmness of it, and also the that this is you. This is not just this person's year in an expression because it's universal. I see. Um, I'll just go to this. Oops, why won't it go to my next one? Um continue to share. I've probably forgotten what I was gonna say. But we're all we're also unique, you know. Um, and we're also unique in the uh how we express ourselves, but there's two real distinct patterns in plasma, and they can display themselves in a multitude, a multidimensional array of different um here. This the this shape will show up more um like it has 90 degree angles, right? You know, and it's very focused, it's very bright, it's very powerful, it has a lot of direction, it knows where it's going, it knows what it's doing, it's totally focused on its mission, and and it's only that the boundary actually stops it from moving because some of the crystallography will actually shoot out past the plasma and keep going. So it's like if if that fluid was just there, that energy would just keep moving. So it's unstoppable energy, and when it's like 90 degrees, that's like that. Um, it's because like people say, Oh, we don't get 90 degree angles and straight lines in nature. But when you look at uh at this deeper and deeper with the microscope, you'll see that it's not actually straight lines, it's it's crystal angles and formations and um you know, like quartz crystal forms and it has its peaks. So when you look at it deeper, it's a it's a lot like that. Um, and uh so as I just so over the years and the hours of just observing it in this way, it was really informing me that it was the masculine aspect of the plasma.
ClaireYes, yes, that's exactly what it's like. So, you know, the masculine and the feminine on the other side.
Intention, Coherence, And Color
FionaAnd this is this is this is the feminine, this this is nature, this is how nature expresses herself, and um, and so what can happen as well in like a very dynamic relationship, the two can come into relations, so they will express themselves again in a different way when they're um moving together, they um they have periods of rest, right? It's really unusual, it's like a breath because it's moving like it's breathing. That's another thing, toroidal, but things move as a breath, they flow backwards because you can see the crystallography go forward, then it'll pull back like a wave. So it moves like a breath, and it has these moments of pause. So when the masculine and feminine, these two are flowing together, it's like they have this pause where it's it listens for a moment, then it'll brighten up with light and glow, and it will take off in a direction of like action, and then after a minute, it'll stop and it'll pause like it's thinking for a moment, and then it'll move out in. I didn't know we'd be talking in this way, or I would have had videos that could really show how that relationship. So, what that shows in a person is they have this relationship with themselves where they can deeply listen to life and know when to act and move forward. So it's kind of like a thing that I like to look for, you know, in people when it's like, you know, what when you've got that relationship just flowing, and I'm not saying like it when if it's not happening, it does not mean it's not perfect already, because we can be so focused in a state where we need a lot of that masculine energy. We've maybe we've got to get something together, it needs a lot of focus because I've just got to be in action, action right now because life's just demanding that from me, or not that life's demanding it, it's like this force or this energy that's moving through me. This is how it's moving, this is the relationship right now, and this is where I'm at. Um, so yeah, so um, yeah, so it's beautiful to see it because it expresses itself in so many ways. Um, yeah, and this blue, this is actually from a baby. This is how we are when we come into the world. We are just divine, um in this sentient, sentient way of expressing ourselves. It's like I think that this the baby just fully knows it's um totally divine and present with whole all of life, and it's just such a and the blues, the color of blue that like to me, it's just like divine wisdom. It's like I never thought that you could look at plasma and it would be blue, you know. We look at um like when I look at blood or that plasma field, it's always dark, you know, it's transparent. Um, it has that tone. But babies and children are blue. Um, people when they're going through certain things in their life will have blue also, but um, plasma is also green, it has this emerald green, and that and this really these colors represent when the body's actually really hydrated. This is when you can see that a body's hydrated, um, it's self-regulating itself, so it's feeding itself. So somebody that is displaying, and that's another topic of conversation, is just about food, um, a well-hydrated system where their body's making internal waters. Internal water that's deuterium depleted is a hydrated body, not body of somebody that's been drinking a lot of water, because these blues and the stuff from children, they're all from breastfed, they're not eating lots of food. The same with the um when I'm looking at the green um emerald tones, um, those people very because I've looked at that mostly in the urine community, so the that's more evolved within them is this is the green plasma. Um, it's very highly, it's very hydrated, it can live on my slide for days without dehydrating and drying out. Um, and after a few days, when it has dried out, it's gone to this phase, it can actually rehydrate itself and it comes back. And I'm like, so there's so many things about plasma. That's why I'm like, what is this stuff? Don't just call it plasma. I'm like, there's too much going on here, it's too multidimensional to be one thing.
ClaireOh, absolutely.
FionaSo it can do things, it can so this is another thing. Um, I was working with somebody that uses the biogeometry on their plasma, and then we're coming back to the 90 degrees again. So this is very similar to um Ibrah Ibrahim Karim, the biogeometry, the biosignatures, the Egyptian um is he a professor? I feel so bad. Don't anyway. So he has a specific pendant and a specific, he calls it the L90.
ClaireOkay.
FionaUm, it's a 90-degree angle for structuring, for protection. I think it's the one they used in Europe to, and I haven't read much into it because I only just started reading about it, because they put this L symbol on all the I think the electrical pylons and all the towers, and it changed the whole town or something, the the vibratory effects. So um, why did I go to L90? Um, so oh I forgot where I started from. It's pretty we can't just rewind so I can go what we just say.
ClaireWell, we went back to the masculine pattern. Okay.
FionaUm yeah, forgot. I was going somewhere. That's the thing. I guess I think I've said it at the beginning, we can go down so many um directions here. It was specifically about the plasma, how it responds. Um, oh, so yeah, so I had their plasma on the slide, the person that infuses it with the L90 on their bottle. I put it on the slide, set my camera up, had it positioned to where um I was gonna be looking. So um I'm looking through the microscope, I've got my camera set up. Um, and the next thing I just what I see is like it's like a fast movement. I'm like, what's going on? I look at my camera and I can see, oh, I've missed what happened. So I'm looking at the camera, I'm like, I don't understand what happened. So I look at the slide and I can see that the slide on the mounting block, which doesn't move, I have a dial underneath that I have to turn to move my slide. It forced the slide the whole thing right across. So I'd lost the image that I was looking at through here, and I was like, how did that move? So I look at my slide and I noticed that it's not a spherical drop anymore. It's it shot a protrusion out from its right side, so it looked like a massive tail. So it gone into a teardrop shape. So the force of it pushing and changing its shape moved my slide across my microscope. So I sat there like this, like that that's that I don't that defies Yeah. So I'm just like what I can't move this thing unless I turn my dial.
ClaireWell, I mean, is that that's gotta be somehow related to the fact that our plasma can they did an experiment where they took like a a glass full of plasma or something and they ran a house, the all the elect all the electrical yeah, it ran the electricity in a house for a day or something, right?
FionaYeah, no, and that's it. I what we really, really don't know that that's in one drop on the slide. I always said to me, I said, that's just one drop. Can you imagine like the fluid that we're made of? Because we're mostly fluid, yeah. You know, it's like okay, we are like missing something about ourselves here of how and and I know we're kept in this space with other frequencies that really distort, like I said, and create a lot of noise for people in their body. You can see that in the plasma. Um, but I really feel I do really feel it's key to use your plasma. Um, if you're not using it, really to change your relationship with it. And really, this is really about changing your relationship with yourself, but really to change that relationship with the water that the waters that run through your body, because you really truly don't understand the power that's in there, and just to acknowledge that there is something more than what you I and the rest of us realize um about us is just just to acknowledge that that there in some way that you are changing that within yourself, yes. And I do believe um that that when we I do believe in that, like when there's a certain amount of people doing a certain amount of things, that it's gonna have a huge impact then on how everybody else does it, and we just have to be that bigger force and not think that something else has more power than us because that keeps us confused, it keeps us helpless, it keeps us numbed out, keeps us scrolling, because we think we can't do anything to change. And I feel that this is key, the key thing that we can do to change, um, to affect our personal environments that we live in, the communities that we live in, because that's where that's that's where we're placed. This is where we're positioned, and this is this is what we can do, you know, get out in nature, take your shoes and socks off, get your feet on the ground, listen to the birds, the way the water's flowing, and and really disconnect um from technology. I'm sorry, that's just it's so invasive nowadays, and yeah, I don't want to go down that rabbit hole because that's just uh that's another well, but it's just what you're saying, Fiona.
ClaireI mean, you know, that this in spite of all of the interference, all of the imposition, all of the attempts at control and suppression, our our our plasma is still creating this miraculous. I mean, yeah, we're indestructible.
Movement: Toroids, Breath, And Pause
FionaYeah, and it's tuned in, it knows, you know, it's not this is not passive. You know, the same as with the plants and trees, it's not passive. This is this is a communication going on, you know. It's it's weather, it's it's everything. Plasma is like weather as well, you know, the way it the way it moves, the the different things that I've seen it do, you know. I've I've been looking at like I don't know if I can well, maybe they won't know I'm talking about theirs right now. Um, you can see um how sometimes it looks like weather moving through the plasma. And what I'm noticing, like, because I'm it takes me a while to look at somebody's plasma. I spend a lot of time, you know, it's it's really intensive and it can take days, weeks, sometimes months because I'm watching so many things shift and change. Because sometimes, like if I can look at somebody's plasma and there's the the read is right there. And the information, and it's like, whoa, yeah, you know, and I've got then I can go back to it in a couple of days, and it's really interesting because I've never seen this before, so I think that's why I'm sharing it. It looked like the plasma created a massive cloud over everything, so that not and I and it and the way it informed, it wasn't so that nothing could be seen by me. It was like this person's obviously um there's something going on right now in their life because there's this massive, and it's not, it doesn't, it's not like and it's not a negative thing. I never look at it as a negative thing. It's like because even the nervous system, even like with trauma, the body is still protecting its human and it's protecting it how it knows best too, with the way the energy can is actually able to move. So it's just like this huge, and I'm fascinated by it, and I'm waiting for it to break. So I'm waiting for like I'm just so fascinated because it's like I can see color underneath, so I know it's emotional. So there's something that this person's just maybe they've got like their protection up, maybe they're processing something in their life, and right now it's not showing up in the and the plat, and to be perfectly honest, that's enough information. Yeah, is the information, this cloud just over the space, you know, for that person. There's so much like when I show people their plasma, there's so much more that they can interpret from like the pieces that I can give them from it, it can make so much more sense to them. Um, so yeah, so uh what what is this stuff? What is going on, you know, even how we look at water, you know. Um, and I think it it really brings it back to that the devotion we need for ourselves. It's not a woo-woo word anymore to have for yourself or for anybody else to be like a devotee, you know, because it had such a floaty feeling to it. No, be freaking grounded and devoted to yourself, because that's where the magnificence is, and that is where you're gonna effectively make big freaking changes, big freaking changes that you don't even know about yet, yeah, because um, that's another thing that presents itself in the plasma. You see the past, you see the present, and you see the future. You are you know, so it's not um just crystallography. Sometimes I call them soul imprints, or it's an imprint from a preserved extended. Um, I don't know if you want me to just well, here, let's go because we've talked about this, I'll quickly um wow what a coherent pattern and like a non-coherent pattern. So somebody that like the non-coherent total overwhelm, the nervous system is in sympathetic mode. There's still so this is something I talk about. The difference, there's a difference between structure and coherence. So your water can still have structure. This is this non-coherent one is showing structure because it's still trying to create structure from what it can get um access to, but it just looks disjointed, angles are off, you know, it looks jaggedy and and it's not filling in the space. Um, it just doesn't seem like it's communicating across all systems. Whereas when you look at the coherent pattern, um, it's filling in the space everywhere. It wants to be as small as possible so it can just, it's just coated and it's it's vibrant. Um and something that I tune into about these patterns, um, is you know, like the architecture of the cathedrals, the big cathedrals, you know, when you go in the domes or you go through the doorways, you know, the way these big arches, and they're like multi-layered, you know, with the ridges. Because it's always like, well, why do they have those ridges? You know, what's the point? Why is this all like designed this way? Um, and it's it's because it's a resonant chamber, right? It's resonance that's been and it's angles and it's specific curves. Um so when I see like plasma like this, I'm like, freaking resonant chamber. This person is resonating, you know, the information within them is is all aligned, things are communicating, but the it's going outward also, you know, into the you know, the biofield, the outer biofield, because I believe the plasma body has its own biofield, yes, as well. Um, because I don't know if I have images of that right now, but yeah, so we're just so one is structured and coherent water, the other is structured, but it's no coherence. So I think that's the difference as well when we're looking at like the water we drink. People say, Oh, my water's structured. I'm like, Yeah, but is it coherent? Right communicating across all sorts of because we can be structured and we can look like this, you know, and say, Well, I've got structure, but are you resonating? Is there coherence in that structure? Um, so I guess going back to the urine, yeah.
ClaireStructure is like 3D, right? Coherence is like 5D, for lack of a bad dimensional, yeah.
Coherent vs Non‑Coherent Patterns
FionaIt's like it's different. Um so this was the experiment with you remember I was saying just about what you can do for yourself if you're not wanting to drink it or do anything like that. Um so this, what was I gonna say first about this? So I don't have the image of it, but I had a control sample as well, because this was um urine that was split into four different samples. We had the um what did I just call it? The control sample to look at, and then we had three different other samples. I didn't do this experiment, somebody else was doing it, and they they did not give me any information about what was intended into the bottles, they were just labeled one, two, three, four. That was all the information I got. So when I looked at one, there was just nothing, it was just kind of sludgy, there wasn't anything going on. Um, there was movement and stuff, but I wasn't seeing like any crystallization. So the other three bottles were labeled one, two, um, two, three, four. So I'll just explain the so the green one. What what what um the person did for this? She um she was just intending love energy, her heart, her love for herself, the love for all the other things that she has in life, the joys and everything else. Few minutes. So when I looked at her plasma, there was a lot of crystallography, and the main colour was green that was resonating through the crystalline structures. So as I'm looking at this, I'm like, oh wow, this is so cool. You know, I have no idea what she's done, and there was all kinds of other images as well because she's an artist, so she'd drawn specific art images that were actually in the plasma, also. Um, the blue one. So this was all about her hair, her voice, her expression, how she communicates, and I think she was saying at one point she was actually singing and toning. So her plasma the plasma was crystallized, the same as the green, but everything was blue. I was just like, I at this point, I'm like, oh my god, what is this? What has she been doing? Um, and then so this one at the top. So what I had to do with this image, because when I'm looking at when I was looking at it through the microscope, it was too bright to get a picture of. So I had to turn my light right, right down. Because the the quality of the crystallization and the amount of it was like platinum, it was like a mirror, you know, reflecting back. So it was really hard on the eyes. So I had to turn it right down, so you don't get to the fullness of the color. So um, and what she told me about this one, this was her connecting with her higher self and that whole, you know, the divinity with the mother and her higher self connection, and this was it. So we're looking at the same urine separated into four different things, given different intentions, one not given anything at all, completely ignored, so it just looked like sludge. Um, and this was only like a few minutes. So if this can show up in this experiment in this way, you know, people will say, Well, blah, blah, blah, whatever. This is what we can do for ourselves, we can shift that frequency and resonance within ourselves with the same intention, and you want to give yourself a few minutes, and that is about like creating them preserved images and moments with meaning for yourself. Because remember, the blood is flowing through the heart, it's spinning, it's a vortex, it's a hub of consciousness and activity and light that's going on here. And where does that at least a third of that blood is take where does it go immediately? Do you know? What after the heart? Yeah, a third of it, at least. A third of it gets and really quickly it goes right the kidneys. It's like and that's where it sends most of that blood from the heart that gets squeezed and massaged and all them other cool things. So, anyway, so yeah, so I so that's what you can do for yourself, you know. Know that doing this creates a change, you know, because I know a lot of people kind of tend to and I know them because I have friends whose faith in giving to themselves or that something's not working, but just know that it is, and that being consistent is gonna help and support that, and just know that you're freaking gorgeous from the inside out. We're a spectrum of color and frequency and oh my gosh, so such potential, but so much potential.
ClaireSo is this person the the one the images we just saw? Was was she drinking her urine or no?
FionaShe has, yeah, but not like sense of like loop in every day, but is really aware of it, but also lives in a very um she's in a very prayerful state of her body, also. You know, that there is a beauty to who we are as humans. She's an artist, um, and she's she's young, she's in her 20s. I don't know why I'm giving all these descriptions, but um, but yes, she has, and I I think more so now because this this was um this was a few years ago we did this together. Um we're hoping to do a bit more as well.
ClaireSo great.
FionaYeah.
ClaireDo you want to move on? Do you have yeah, let's let's move on. Let's let's do one more. We're we're getting close to our two-hour mark.
Experiments: Intention Shapes Plasma
FionaIt's I can there's so much more, but so I'll do this then because it's again, it's a way you know, looking at those things that are preserved within us. This was um this was uh urine from a pregnant woman, and she was too right, and it was I was looking at it at first. I thought it was like a peyote mushroom because it was kind of giving off that vibe. I'm like and then I was like, oh, it looks more like you know, and then it was just like I was just like fli I was like, oh my god, that's a nipple, that's a breast, you know. I was just like I was seeing it everywhere, and um, so I I googled breast, and I was like, you know what? It looks very I was looking at like at two weeks before giving birth. I was just reading this information that the milk ducks and you know in the woman's body are suddenly are fully developed, and and this was taken to I didn't know at the time she was gonna give birth in two weeks as well, so it was that I was like, oh my god, so obvious, it's so wonderful that it expresses itself. Incredible, yeah, it's incredible. So I just never know what I'm gonna see because like I said, everybody's so unique, and everybody has um just so so much there's so much diversity to us, you know. So who knows? I never know I don't have time because this is like this is a really cool one. So so sometimes when I receive like you know, people's urine, I can't always away. It's just the the length of time and just like backlog and just work and um so I'd met this vessel, she'd seen my stuff on Instagram, she was like, Oh, it's so and because she was interested, it was early days on when I was like, Yeah, you should send me your urine, you know, exchange names and that. So I didn't know her, it's not a friend, it's not somebody I know. She sent me her urine. It took me like five to six months to look at her. It was actually Christmas. Show you how devoted I am. Uh I got my microscope at Chris. So it was Christmas Day. I was looking at her urine, and so I'm gonna explain this image a little bit. Uh, this one, if you can see my guesser. Um I was looking at this, I was like, and it's that field of communication. Um, it's I'm not like saying what it is. So sometimes I'm just so like wide and in that place of curiosity, and like I'm just not even there sometimes. I don't even have a sense in my body, you know, because I'm here, yeah, and I'm viewing into this small world. Like sometimes I'm a body, so it was like, Oh, this is a and it this is how this is a little girl. I was like, okay, you can see her eyes up here. See the two eyes, and she has a little mouth and nose, and she has a triangle on her head. This is her hair, this is the representation of her body. She has what looks like beautiful wings, her legs, and then there was this image here, which looked like it was on her arm. So under the microscope, the images are a lot clearer than when I take the photograph, so they're not as sharp. And I was like, Oh, look at a little crow, you know, a little raven on her arm. And I was like, this is a bizarre image, and then all I could hear was baby girl September, and I was like, this other image that you can see look like it just looked like a little girl with the hat on. It felt real grandmother energy, felt like I was in the 18th century, actually, when I was looking at these, so it's Christmas Day, baby girl September. This is weird. How do I get in touch with her and say, I looked at your P and I saw these images, said baby girl september? I'm like, people are just gonna be like, she's just weird, she's someone reader. So um, so I send her. I waited, I seriously, I waited three weeks, four weeks, because like I couldn't do it. So I send her, um, and it was just so that's all part of the story. I sent her the information and she sent me a text back. She said, Well, not so many terms, get the F out. I just found out I'm pregnant, it was January. She had my baby's September, so I was like, all my goosebumps, I was like, Oh my god, oh my god, what's happening? You know, like because it was another like that buddha move. This was like, this is when this kind of information was really because I was reading it about myself, you know, and I was cool with that, but it was this was other people's, and I was like, How do I relay this? Because there's been some incidents that I didn't to other people, and they're other stories in themselves. Um, so I told her that. I said, I said, and and she and the question she said to me said, should what I don't understand is, should I give you that urine before I was pregnant? I said, I know. I said, that what makes it even effing more cooler, right?
ClaireWell, that that reminds me of the other story you you said you you know about the cloud covering the you know, urine has been separated technically from the person, yet it's still aware of the person.
FionaYeah, it's still in communication, the fields have not separated. Yeah, so that's why like it's not I always think like it's not like we receive or we tap in, you know, some it's like we always have access, we have constant access, we just have to remember that about the okay. I don't okay, if I do this here, I'm just remembering I have access to all this. I don't need to tell myself, oh, I have to tap in. No, you're already in. Stop thinking you have to tap in because you're already in. That's another stage you're being made to go through that has another belief system entwined within it. You're already in it, you have access to it. So this one got even cooler. So I gave her that information. Like I said, we're not friends, we okay, like texting. So I was like, Well, this is freaking amazing if she gives birth to a baby girl. So I'm waiting for September, you know, to a baby girl or a baby boy, because that'll be really cool if she has a baby girl, because there was so much more symbology in this image um for her and for the child. That's a deeper layer that was for her. So so these taken 20 hours before she gave birth. The thing is, I didn't know when she was gonna give birth, right? So in September, and I work constantly like a cycle with people's urine, and hers was coming up, and I thought, oh, I'm gonna look at hers. It's September. I'm gonna, I want to see, you know, I'm thinking, I'm gonna see the little child because that's what we've been seeing and looking at. So I put it on the slide, and I'm not I'm seeing these amazing explosions of like light and torus fields, toroidal energy just exploding, right?
ClaireIncredible.
FionaThen this image, the brightness of the outline. I looked at that and I went, it just looks like a big Yoni opened, right? Oh, I think I thought at the time, I thought, oh, she must have given birth. You know, she's not a person that would put it all on, you know, Facebook or because she doesn't live that way. So I was like, oh, she must have given birth. I think that's what this is about because I looked through it, there was no images of a child or anything else that I'd been seeing. Um, so again, it took me a week or two to get in touch because it's just you know, and I'm like, I saw these images in your your urine, and this is, you know, this told her like the day and everything that it was done because she sent, she said, should I have given birth? She said, You took those pictures 20 hours before I gave birth. Because she was the one that told me that, because I the the images were like date stamped, you know, with the date, you know, and the time, and she was like, as in labor.
ClaireOh my god.
FionaHow and like and again, it's like we don't we don't have a personal relationship. We have now, you know, it's it's very different now because I look at her her child's urine and stuff too. Um, so yeah, so it's like it it blows me away every time. Everybody's different. There's always something to learn, to know, to be informed. It's just it's ever evolving, it's so multidimensional. I I never know what I'm gonna expect when I look at someone's urine. I know like specific things that form, but I never know what it's gonna say, express.
ClaireIt's just as unique as the person. I mean, my mind is totally blown. If if somebody wants to uh work with you, like how how do you work with people? I know you've mentioned clients and stuff like that. How how does what is that process?
Pregnancy Imprints And Future Signals
FionaUm there's uh there's a few different ways. Like, I don't have my website up right now, and I know I can hear all my friends going bloody typical. I've just still not done that website. Um, probably the best way. Get in touch with me is through email. Um, so what it looks like, there's there's different things I can do. Sometimes I can be looking at the blood and the urine. Sometimes people just want me to look at their urine. Sorry, this is a terrible question because this is where I slip up because it's really difficult to put a price on it. It's very difficult for me, you know. When I look at like I'm like, seriously, dude, I could spend 60 hours on someone's urine. How would you price that out? Yeah. You know, at an hourly rate. So uh to navigate that has been really um, it's just been a challenge because I've had to look at because people say, well, you don't value yourself, and I'm saying, I do, but I don't value a system that puts a price on an hour on a on what we bring. So what I tend to do with people is like, if you've got a trade, something you do in the world, and you can trade that with me, or there's something else that we can do where we're not necessarily in this monetary system. If you want to like give me a donation, that's totally fine. But I find that is a real unusual area for people because they're like, Oh, how much do I do that? You know, it's still a lot of energy to it. So I'm like, show me what you got. What do you do? How can we like be in relationship and partnership with what we do? So I don't want to be in that system that's saying, Yeah, well, I've just spent 60 hours and I'm a hundred dollars an hour, right? For what? So you can see these images and that you know, I can't work. Yeah, it's it's really difficult. So I prefer that um one-on-one. What do you do? How can we like trade that out instead of being in this um fiat system?
ClaireRight, right. I couldn't couldn't agree more. I've had a lot of questions around that myself. Um, so uh you know, I could we could send people to your Instagram and they could message you, and then you could give them your email address if they wanted to get in touch.
FionaOkay, okay, just yeah, that's probably the best way.
ClaireI know that people are going, you know, I I I need I want to see pictures of my urine. I uh you know uh they're gonna want to be able to get in touch.
FionaAnd again, it's to have that image because it's something you can keep your attention to. You know, it's a reminder and it's a remembrance of the body, like, yeah, that's me, that's who I am.
ClaireYeah, yeah.
FionaIn that moment, in that moment.
ClaireI mean, yeah, and to know that it's evolving after it's left you, still in communication with you holographically is mind-blowing.
FionaYeah, and again, that's that whole relationship of releasing the water, your waters, that information's contained in, and like again, when it goes back into the soil, it recreates life. And most of the time, people are peeing their life force away, it gets blasted with chemicals, it gets uh I'm sorry, I feel like my not so coherent language starts coming out, like you know, so it gets attacked, it's another level of assault, an attack on your body, your plasma body, your existence. They are taking your power and they are deciding what how it's going to be treated and how it's gonna be taken care of, and that is your life force that has all those meanings, all that information within it, and you're also still connected to it, right? Right.
ClaireOh, you're not gonna be able to do that. I hadn't thought about that. That's true.
FionaOr if it's getting blasted with chemicals, yeah, and that's still connected with you in your field, you still have access to it. Where are you in that moment with your focus and intention? Is it is it is it like in love and joy? Because maybe you can counteract that effect, or are you like the um with the noise in the system, the spiritual imbalance, all your stuff's getting blasted by chemicals? Are you feeling that? Yeah, I mean, well, there's so many that's why there's so many levels.
ClaireIs this multidimensional on how um yeah, it's just better to collect it in a way and like you said, you know, give it to the the plants or you know, give it back to the earth somehow. Yes, I mean and let it be life again. Wow, naturally, I had not considered that, but now seeing how it is still holographically connected, it's that's a whole different uh way of thinking. Yeah, yeah, totally different. Well, Fiona, I I can't thank you. And there's I I I've I want to see so many more of your slides. I I have so many more questions. I I hope you'd consider coming back another time, maybe we could look at some videos or something totally geek out.
FionaWe could be a little bit more organized, but still a lot of organized, and I can actually then share with you the um because I don't want to share it just yet. I've just started on something really new that's just take it's just another level of like um the waters, the plasma, just how interconnected we are with everything. So yeah, um I can't wait to hear more about that. Love to share more.
ClaireWell, and everybody you can see Fiona in uh Veda Austin's documentary that has just come out. Um, you're featured in that in that documentary, which is super exciting. Uh Veda Austin, the water scientist. So um we'll put links to all your all your links and anything that you want people to know about and want to share um will be in the show notes, obviously. And uh well, I just want to thank you for honoring the Grace space with your presence, your deep knowledge, and um, you know, everything that you're bringing to this awakening. And I feel like, you know, you're such a force, and and and just you know, who you are and what you do is uh is breaking this matrix wide open with love.
FionaWith love, yeah. Yeah. I have had so much fun with you. It's been so great, Claire. And I'm so glad we finally got here. What a what a divine journey that was. I know, I know.
ClaireWell, you know, you'll come back and uh and we'll we'll talk more. Yeah, I would love that. Thank you so much, Fiona.
FionaMe too, thank you.